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Devils team discussion (news, notes and speculation) - 2022-23 season thread part III

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Killing Joke said:
So we are calling up a horrible goalie in the middle of a losing streak eh? Toms a bit stupid
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glenwo2 said:
Well I guess when you want to fail, why not fail in the most SPECTACULAR way, I say? :rolly:
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Earlier in the year we had every reason to give him another shot, as we really didn't expect Schmid to play in the NHL this year, never mind actually playing well. I think we had hoped Schmid wouldn't come near the NHL this year.

But now it's kind of like ''Okay, so the guy who replaced him did a better job than anything he's done in just about two years and he continues to not be good''.

Oops!

I wonder if Carolina is gonna send Kochetkov down when Freddie the Fossil returns and go with the AARP of injured goalies tandem?

I like our chances of getting out of this rut, other than the jerking around of the goalie decisions. If we think we're gonna experiment with a 1-2 punch, especially with Vitek's recent slide, that could be all she wrote.
 
Feels like this teams depth is really being tested, especially up front. Some of the struggles are a little worrisome, in my opinion.

Tatar and Zetterlund are coming down to earth it seems. Boqvist and Sharangovich seem to have struggled of late. Holtz isn’t quite ready to play the current system either.

I’m not quite sure any of the Thompson, Foote, Clarke, etc are really going to have much of an impact either. There’s nothing else really in the system currently either that I could see being an upgrade over the current crop of NHLers.

I really wonder if the team makes a waiver claim soon. Could definitely use a forward who can use his size effectively after losing Palat/Bastian. Could also just use a reliable depth forward to begin with.
 
Zippy316 said:
Feels like this teams depth is really being tested, especially up front. Some of the struggles are a little worrisome, in my opinion.

Tatar and Zetterlund are coming down to earth it seems. Boqvist and Sharangovich seem to have struggled of late. Holtz isn’t quite ready to play the current system either.

I’m not quite sure any of the Thompson, Foote, Clarke, etc are really going to have much of an impact either. There’s nothing else really in the system currently either that I could see being an upgrade over the current crop of NHLers.

I really wonder if the team makes a waiver claim soon. Could definitely use a forward who can use his size effectively after losing Palat/Bastian. Could also just use a reliable depth forward to begin with.
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Not that I disagree per se but a much bigger problem is that our top 6 is not scoring the past few games. Points from someone not named Hughes would do more than any waiver claim.
 
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Zippy316 said:
Feels like this teams depth is really being tested, especially up front. Some of the struggles are a little worrisome, in my opinion.

Tatar and Zetterlund are coming down to earth it seems. Boqvist and Sharangovich seem to have struggled of late. Holtz isn’t quite ready to play the current system either.

I’m not quite sure any of the Thompson, Foote, Clarke, etc are really going to have much of an impact either. There’s nothing else really in the system currently either that I could see being an upgrade over the current crop of NHLers.

I really wonder if the team makes a waiver claim soon. Could definitely use a forward who can use his size effectively after losing Palat/Bastian. Could also just use a reliable depth forward to begin with.
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Craig Smith on waivers, but I don’t think the cap works and he might be cooked. He was still good up until this year, I don’t know.
 
guitarguyvic said:
Honestly them throwing Blackwood out there in the middle of a vulnerable time for the team is more worrisome to me than anything I’ve seen from them leading up to this.
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It would certainly be easier to swallow if the guy he was replacing had performed poorly or just whatever. The guy he’s replacing has been lights out, even if unsustainably so.

That said, i wouldn’t be surprised if he’s in net when we break this losing streak and people start back the faith and hope again and asking the naysayers to eat crow. Remember, not every bad player is consistently bad every single game or every single stretch of games. Michael McLeod is one of the worst goal scorers there is and has had some of the stupidest long goal scoring droughts and yet he has two different 2 goal games at the NHL level, as well as 9 goals in 40-something games two years ago.

I’m pretty confident that no matter what happens, he’ll do more harm than he does good, but maybe we can get a hot enough streak out of him that he doesn’t flush points/wins, but we can still move on after the season.

If he does poorly I think the leash will be fairly short and Schmid will come back up and he’ll go on waivers, where Arizona likely picks him up, barring a Connor Ingram hot streak Incoming between now and then.
 
Has there been any mention of Blackwood taking over Schmid? Wouldn’t they have sent Schmid down already if that was the case now that Blackwood is back?
 
Devs3cups said:
Has there been any mention of Blackwood taking over Schmid? Wouldn’t they have sent Schmid down already if that was the case now that Blackwood is back?
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Maybe, but that to me just seems wishful thinking.

Maybe there’s a chance they carry three goalies? It doesn’t seem like that’s the plan and while it’s happened around the league more times than I can remember, it isn’t how we have operated, outside of the covid year where everybody carried three goalies.

But until we see that Schmid has been sent back, I guess we can try to hold on to some hope. And we have yet to see that.

My guess is that announcement is officially made tomorrow morning.
 
I actually don’t see Blackwood listed on the AHL transaction page for today, but it was posted earlier that he was returned.

And Isaac Poulter was on the page as being returned to ECHL Adirondack.

Basically without Schmid, I think that leaves Daws as the only goalie on the AHL roster right now.
 
I can't help but feel like the loss of Bastian was massive, certainly larger than you'd expect for a "4th liner" given his PP time and the fact that the BMW line does play significant minutes. Once he came back from Seattle the PP got going last year too. After he went down the lines got all kind of got discombobulated and things never clicked again like during the streak.
 
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Poppy Whoa Sonnet said:
I can't help but feel like the loss of Bastian was massive, certainly larger than you'd expect for a "4th liner" given his PP time and the fact that the BMW line does play significant minutes. Once he came back from Seattle the PP got going last year too. After he went down the lines got all kind of got discombobulated and things never clicked again like during the streak.
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I agree, ever since than we haven't been able to roll 4 effective lines.
 
Poppy Whoa Sonnet said:
I can't help but feel like the loss of Bastian was massive, certainly larger than you'd expect for a "4th liner" given his PP time and the fact that the BMW line does play significant minutes. Once he came back from Seattle the PP got going last year too. The lines got all kind of got discombobulated too and things never clicked again like during the streak.
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100%.

I know some will read this as Bastian alone being an important part, but it's not that. When he was playing, everyone was playing exactly where they were suppose to, every line had a purpose, and no one line had to do the heavy lifting. The forward group was a swiss army knife that Ruff could switch tools between at a moments notice depending at the task at hand. There was no "leftover" lines. I feel like we have two of those at the moment, and instead of choosing the right line for the job at anytime, it's more of a "alright you guys go next, I guess," system.

Also the line about losing certain players or not paying them because "you can't get plenty of "those guys" at the deadline or FA every year," is ridiculous for the same reason. It's never worked liked that, and if it has, it was luck more than anything.
 
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SteveCangialosi123 said:
Craig Smith on waivers, but I don’t think the cap works and he might be cooked. He was still good up until this year, I don’t know.
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I think that’s too pricey. Maybe a Johnsson/Smith swap if he clears, but that’s a lot of extra salary for NJ to take on so I doubt it. I can’t see Bruins being interested either.

I still think this team is going to end up making a claim off waivers. We desperately need some forward depth up front.
 
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