You’d also feel much more comfortable if Nosek, Lazar, or Tierney were in the press box for 50+ games compared to Holtz or Clarke. I think that’s the biggest reason these guys are being brought in.Ran out of roster spots and Boqvist didn't really profile to be a 4th liner. Nosek at least has a history of being a penalty killer and his faceoff prowess is a nice bonus.
Boqvist: 21 points in 70 games, 11:36 TOI, 33.2% FO
Nosek: 18 points in 66 games, 12:33 TOI, 59.3% FO
Maybe if you were starting an expansion team you'd go with Boqvist, but I think they were looking for a 4th line role player and Nosek arguably fits the bill.
Which Fitz pretty clearly does.Better defensively than McLeod, gives you face offs if you have a fetish for that sort of thing - yeah I’ll take it.
You can’t go much further down the lineup than the third lineI could see this taking some of the PK minutes off of Nico. Love that Nico wants to play on the PK, but if you can get similar(or better) results from guys further down the lineup, I'm much rather do that.
I can't, but Nico can.You can’t go much further down the lineup than the third line
Some will be AHL depth.15 fwds, counting Tierney not counting Foote and Clarke.
Interesting
I just wonder if Nosek would sign up for a likely 13th fwd role. Thinking there may have been some acknowledgement of playing time in negotiations.Some will be AHL depth.
I think Nosek and Lazar are pretty close to the platonic ideal of a reserve forward, so I'm happy with this.
I mean, I would assume he's going to be the starting 4th line LW (or C, if McLeod is suspended). But he's going to have to compete with Foote for that job.I just wonder if Nosek would sign up for a likely 13th fwd role. Thinking there may have been some acknowledgement of playing time in negotiations.
Couldn't agree more... the stat boys will look at a chart and tell you he wasn't a factor.. he is gonna be missed.. he is a damn good player for his role and salary..the whole "see ya mikey" thing is funny
yeah he might suck as a person (we'll see), but as a player? we all were drooling over him in playoffs. i'm definitely intrigued by these Center pickups
He had a couple big goals, including obviously the game 7 goal, but overall he wasn't great in the playoffs by the numbers.
he had some of the biggest heart on the team .. plays all out 100pct of the time every game every shift.. sign me up all day for guys like mcleod... off the ice if he is guilty of what he is being accused than he has to live with that and the consequences.. but he brought a bunch to the table when the playoffs started... and i bet if you asked his coaches and teammates they would say the same thing and tell everyone to take their stats and shove them..maybe not by #s but he sure as hell was visibly giving effort
I won't lose any sleep over it, but i don't think he was necessarily replacement level, so i'm really just wondering how we're handling so many Cs
I like Thompson too but he can't seem to stay healthy... I can see Foote really establishing himself this season....You’d also feel much more comfortable if Nosek, Lazar, or Tierney were in the press box for 50+ games compared to Holtz or Clarke. I think that’s the biggest reason these guys are being brought in.
And you can’t go wrong with more depth. If someone like Tyce Thompson takes a huge leap and surprises everyone in September, you can waive one of these guys and not really think twice about it. But now you don’t need to count on one of Thompson, Foote, etc. being NHL-ready.
Do you think that really comes into the disucssion? i tend to think not... i can't see a GM saying youre gonna automatically get x amount of time etc etc.. I guess there is a general understanding of your role going into it, but i can't see a coach not putting out the guys he thinks are most deserving.. but who knows.I just wonder if Nosek would sign up for a likely 13th fwd role. Thinking there may have been some acknowledgement of playing time in negotiations.
I’m thinking the move is that at least one of these guys will be making a lot of money in Utica or picked up on waivers.Good move, I didn't realize Nosek was available. Always good to have extra center depth, particularly with uncertainty around Lazar and McLeod.
Unless there is some other move in the works, there's going to be somewhat of a logjam in the bottom 6 in camp, but I'm sure we'll sort it out.
Couldn't agree more... the stat boys will look at a chart and tell you he wasn't a factor.. he is gonna be missed.. he is a damn good player for his role and salary..
It's a solid, no-nonsense signing by Fitz. Nosek is a solid 4th liner, effective on the PK, can win some faceoffs. That's all they need from their 4th line. This is also keeps Lazar as the 13th forward (a more suitable spot for him) and Tierney in Utica.15 fwds, counting Tierney not counting Foote and Clarke.
Interesting
I think Nosek is in the starting lineup on the 4th line .He is a good PK’er , great at FO , great defensively , plays a heavy style game , has an insane amount of D zone starts for Boston last year .I mean, I would assume he's going to be the starting 4th line LW (or C, if McLeod is suspended). But he's going to have to compete with Foote for that job.
I'm definitely one of the bigger analytics/stats proponents, but I also was very much in favour of bringing Mikey back. It's not like his "analytics" are terrible. They're solid for the role he's given.Couldn't agree more... the stat boys will look at a chart and tell you he wasn't a factor.. he is gonna be missed.. he is a damn good player for his role and salary..
Ya if the Helle ship has sailed , I’d like to kick the tires on getting Backlund from the Flame at 50% retention.the fans with a fetish for Foote are in a frenzy (i had to use a thesaurus for frenzy)
anyway, this is a smart move for a team that considers itself a cup contender. with hellebuck prob not being realistic this time around, its good to shore up the other parts of the team.
love his faceoff and pk ability
I think we’re now totally set at forward. I don’t see much room for anyone unless Holtz is getting traded. If we’re trading for anyone of note, it will probably happen at the deadline if we have a hole.Ya if the Helle ship has sailed , I’d like to kick the tires on getting Backlund from the Flame at 50% retention.
Or maybe someone like ummm Toews at league minimum ?
At this point does NJ need another forward?Ya if the Helle ship has sailed , I’d like to kick the tires on getting Backlund from the Flame at 50% retention.
Or maybe someone like ummm Toews at league minimum ?
But you acknowledge that a guy playing a tough defensive role needs to have adjusted expectations in terms of possession numbers. Many stat boys do not.I'm definitely one of the bigger analytics/stats proponents, but I also was very much in favour of bringing Mikey back. It's not like his "analytics" are terrible. They're solid for the role he's given.
We don't need to make a false dichotomy here.
I also don't think the Nosek signing has any bearing on the Mcleod situation.
lol, “strawman” coming from you is absolute gold, but you are right if it wasn’t for face offs there would be absolutely no reason to care about what he did in the playoffs…. Keep goingNo one said he wasnt a factor. That was you making up strawmans.
He is just a guy. If he didnt win faceoffs (which overall don't matter) at a very high clip, no one would care about him.