SteveCangialosi123
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Hopefully this is just insurance for if Smith can’t cut it. He’s fine as a #6 or 7 I guess though.
so we'll have butcher, sevo, murray, kulikov, smith, subban, carrick, and an 8th? we'll carry 8?
Maybe it was impossible for the Jets to lowball him considering they were paying him 4.33m for 3 years. He’s only 29 so it’s not like he’s a declining vet.If he was that solid I'm sure they would have kept him for the rock bottom price we just paid.
Maybe it was impossible for the Jets to lowball him considering they were paying him 4.33m for 3 years. He’s only 29 so it’s not like he’s a declining vet.
It’s debatable to me that Christopher Tanev is actually particularly better then Dmitry Kulikov. Like Tanev, Kulikov would normally get overpaid with multi-year deal from a team desperate for defense in a typical off-season. He’s not some fringe tweener barely staying in the league because he’s bad at hockey.
This is excellent signing at that price. Ben Hutton and Slater Koekkoek were really the only other intriguing UFA defensemen left unless you count poor Sami.
Not sure if we NEED one now, but it would be nice to have. We definitely need to give Smith a shot at a spot while having a viable backup plan. I'm not sure how great of a backup plan Carrick is.
Ideally to me, the best move we could do is to trade Butcher for a viable 2nd pairing LD and a cap dump, but maybe that's just a pipe dream.
I'm just not high on his defensive ability from what I'm reading.
I'd actually entertain the idea of trading Butcher at this point. He looks like he's becoming expendable for what he brings.
Hmm. I somewhat disagree. I think Butcher was stuck playing in a system he's not suited for. Chasing a forward up past the dots is not a good thing to do for a slow d man. Thus, I think he's better than what he showed last year.If he's terrible defensively he's still better than Butcher defensively as I see it. Butcher is soft, slow, without reach, and at this point lacks defensive confidence to my eyes. I just can't stomach Butcher having to play any meaningful minutes again. On a very good team where he can play very protected third pair minutes and PP he's a good fit. NJ just needs to give Butcher's minutes to Smith if Smith is at all showing some NHL ability.
There's no market for Butcher in flat / internal cap world. Buying him out and trading for a cap dump or signing someone like Koekkoek I'd entertain at this point.
Hmm. I somewhat disagree. I think Butcher was stuck playing in a system he's not suited for. Chasing a forward up past the dots is not a good thing to do for a slow d man. Thus, I think he's better than what he showed last year.
I mean, slower D can be OK in the league. Green wasn't exactly greased lightning, yet he carved out a heck of a career.
Kulikov is a lefty...
I normally try to be nuanced about GMs, it’s a tough complex job, but Bowman’s probably the worst GM in the NHL right now. I’m not sure what his strengths would be, he just routinely sucks sucks so Chicago does dumb things often. They could have been reasons. Koekkoek with played Maata and he’s gone too, and they may feel Boqvist is ready.Ya, I'm a fan of Koekkoek, but seeing Chicago dump him when he was making near league minimum makes me really nervous about him.
You can sign a PTO at any time, so I'm guessing we'd be allowed. It's not like we're getting an earlier or later deadline than the playoff teams.I wonder if we can have PTOs at our early non-playoff loser camp. I guess that would be seen as unfair to our betters? Koekkoek might be a guy who needs a PTO at this point or maybe he’s just holding out for a better deal.
If I never see Butcher play another minute for us I’d be happy. He’s at his ceiling and out of his depth with his limited skating ability. In his first half season the league hadn’t figured him out. Then they did. Just pressure the puck on his stick. And defending our power play, funnel the puckIf he's terrible defensively he's still better than Butcher defensively as I see it. Butcher is soft, slow, without reach, and at this point lacks defensive confidence to my eyes. I just can't stomach Butcher having to play any meaningful minutes again. On a very good team where he can play very protected third pair minutes and PP he's a good fit. NJ just needs to give Butcher's minutes to Smith if Smith is at all showing some NHL ability.
If I never see Butcher play another minute for us I’d be happy. He’s at his ceiling and out of his depth with his limited skating ability. In his first half season the league hadn’t figured him out. Then they did. Just pressure the puck on his stick. And defending our power play, funnel the puck
to Butcher and force him to carry it and try to make the zone entry - end of our power play every possession. The guy is only marginally an NHL player and no team that has him at more than limited 3d pairing minutes will ever be competitive.
Okay my rant. Think maybe I don’t like him.