News: Devils open to trading No. 10 pick in 2024 NHL Draft, looking for goalie

[viper0220]

I really hope the Flames are in on this, getting Tij Iginla and one of the D would be huge.

Make a package.

Devils open to trading No. 10 pick in 2024 NHL Draft, looking for goalie | NHL.com

GM hopes to upgrade after New Jersey allowed 3.43 goals per game this season, missed playoffs

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[Baby Pettersson]

Vancouver Deja vu?

 

[Gliff]

Gibson at 50%

 

[SannywithoutCompy]

Maybe they can rock the Montembeault-Allen combo as well

 

[sensfan4lifee]

I can see it coming right away

Saros to the Devils for the 10th OVA + something

 

[CanadienShark]

I really hope the Flames are in on this, getting Tij Iginla and one of the D would be huge.

Make a package.

Devils open to trading No. 10 pick in 2024 NHL Draft, looking for goalie | NHL.com

GM hopes to upgrade after New Jersey allowed 3.43 goals per game this season, missed playoffs

www.nhl.com

What goalie do the Flames have that's worth 10th overall or anything remotely close to that?

 

[GCK]

I can see it coming right away

Saros to the Devils for the 10th OVA + something

That would be the Predators adding.

 

[Peter Griffin]

I’ve seen this episode before.

 

[Beukeboom Fan]

Don't see that Markstrom or Saros with the term/control left on those players would have that type of value. Just going from memory, last trade like this would have Schneider to the Devils.

 

[NOTENOUGHRYJOTHINGS]

Rantanen extended.

 

[SannywithoutCompy]

Don't see that Markstrom or Saros with the term/control left on those players would have that type of value. Just going from memory, last trade like this would have Schneider to the Devils.

Age-wise it would be someone like Montembeault, Hill, or Daccord

 

[JKG33]

Reading the article.. I think these are two separate trade options. They're open to trading the 10th overall pick in a win now move. And they're looking for a goalie.

An important distinction, because I don't see any available goalies that would be worth the 10th overall. And the ones that are wouldn't get traded.

I also don't know how trading the 10th overall would work. They've paid up to bring in a few players, still need a starting goalie, and have young players that'll need raises in the not so distant future. Cap space goes quick, and players that have 10th overall value typically don't come with a cheap cap hit

 

[AlexModvechkin8]

Darcy Kuemper is your man.

(C’mon, don’t laugh… you know you want him… 10OA is a steal for this Cup-winning netminder!)

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

I wouldn't trade Saros for the #10 from the Nashville POV... unless his contract extension demands are so extravagant that extending him becomes a non-option and he is basically forcing a trade. Which I don't remotely see happening. Pass.

 

[HitterD]

Realizing that the #10 straight up for Markstrom is too rich for NJ, even at 50% retention, I’m curious what the flames can add to put this over the top for NJ fans.

Brodeur has called Markstrom a top 5 goalie, so I suspect he’s still one of the top targets for NJ.

Does #10 for Markstrom (50%) and #28 get it done?

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

Players traded for known Top 10 picks post-lockout:

Jeff Carter (26, 11 years of term left on his contract!)
Jordan Staal (24, 1 year until UFA, but a slam dunk to sign an extension in Carolina for family reasons)
Cory Schneider (27, 2 years left on his contract)
Derek Stepan (27, 4 years left on his contract)
Alex DeBrincat (24, RFA with 2 years of control)

Connor Garland/Oliver Ekman-Larsson (This was a Frankenstein package with a 25 year old Garland with 2 years of control, a soon to be 30 year old OEL with 7 years left on his contract, and multiple cap dumps going to Arizona)

Jim Benning notwithstanding, a midish 20s core player with term/control is the likely ask (with New Jersey potentially adding).

 

[bert]

I can see it coming right away

Saros to the Devils for the 10th OVA + something

10th overall should be more than enough for a goalie on an expiring contract. Goalies just dont have the same value as people seem to think.

Realizing that the #10 straight up for Markstrom is too rich for NJ, even at 50% retention, I’m curious what the flames can add to put this over the top for NJ fans.

Brodeur has called Markstrom a top 5 goalie, so I suspect he’s still one of the top targets for NJ.

Does #10 for Markstrom (50%) and #28 get it done?

This deal makes sense.

I wouldn't trade Saros for the #10 from the Nashville POV... unless his contract extension demands are so extravagant that extending him becomes a non-option and he is basically forcing a trade. Which I don't remotely see happening. Pass.

With Askarov coming and Saros without a contract. A small goalie who relies on athleticism, who's next contract takes him into his mid to late 30's. You are crazy not to take it. Especially in a draft where after #1 its realistic the order of the next 10 players could literally be anything. There's a drop off at 12 in my opinion.

 

[Peter Sidorkiewicz]

Realizing that the #10 straight up for Markstrom is too rich for NJ, even at 50% retention, I’m curious what the flames can add to put this over the top for NJ fans.

Brodeur has called Markstrom a top 5 goalie, so I suspect he’s still one of the top targets for NJ.

Does #10 for Markstrom (50%) and #28 get it done?

Add Coronato or Coleman with Markstrom (50%)

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

10th overall should be more than enough for a goalie on an expiring contract. Goalies just dont have the same value as people seem to think.

Value doesn't exist in a vacuum. I don't think any past precedents or external valuations matter. I wouldn't trade a #10 pick for Saros from the Devils POV either. I'm just saying it's also a non-starter from the Preds' POV, outside of a very specific and unlikely circumstance. There are other teams with established NHL starters potentially on the market who will be more motivated sellers than the Preds will be. The Devils should be going after Ullmark, Markstrom, Binnington etc if those guys are available, since Saros is going to be much more expensive, either in terms of trade cost or alternatively in terms of contract. Either one of those makes Saros a prohibitive acquisition for the Devils. While at the same time being more valuable to the Preds than a #10 pick.

 

[bert]

Value doesn't exist in a vacuum. I don't think any past precedents or external valuations matter. I wouldn't trade a #10 pick for Saros from the Devils POV either. I'm just saying it's also a non-starter from the Preds' POV, outside of a very specific and unlikely circumstance. There are other teams with established NHL starters potentially on the market who will be more motivated sellers than the Preds will be. The Devils should be going after Ullmark, Markstrom, Binnington etc if those guys are available, since Saros is going to be much more expensive, either in terms of trade cost or alternatively in terms of contract. Either one of those makes Saros a prohibitive acquisition for the Devils. While at the same time being more valuable to the Preds than a #10 pick.

I lost you at the bolded. Thats what every trade is based on a players perceived value and what he can be shopped for. You may not want the player but thats what the market value of an asset is based on. There are more than 1 suitor for all players with his track record of performance age and accomplishments. You may not care or want the player but thats not how it works. I dont know why you think any of those other goalies will be any cheaper either. Who says St Louis is even shopping Binnington.

 

[Forge]

Realizing that the #10 straight up for Markstrom is too rich for NJ, even at 50% retention, I’m curious what the flames can add to put this over the top for NJ fans.

Brodeur has called Markstrom a top 5 goalie, so I suspect he’s still one of the top targets for NJ.

Does #10 for Markstrom (50%) and #28 get it done?

When was the last time a 30+ skater, nevermind a goalie, got traded for a top 10 pick? Even with a pick coming back, it just doesn't happen.

The value is okay. I broke this down in another thread where in some capacity it basically values Markstrom as two second round picks which is fine, but if that's the case it seems silly to pay two second round picks of value for someone by way of the #10 pick in the draft.

Players traded for known Top 10 picks post-lockout:

Jeff Carter (26, 11 years of term left on his contract!)
Jordan Staal (24, 1 year until UFA, but a slam dunk to sign an extension in Carolina for family reasons)
Cory Schneider (27, 2 years left on his contract)
Derek Stepan (27, 4 years left on his contract)
Alex DeBrincat (24, RFA with 2 years of control)

Connor Garland/Oliver Ekman-Larsson (This was a Frankenstein package with a 25 year old Garland with 2 years of control, a soon to be 30 year old OEL with 7 years left on his contract, and multiple cap dumps going to Arizona)

Jim Benning notwithstanding, a midish 20s core player with term/control is the likely ask (with New Jersey potentially adding).

If their respective teams are moving them, that's probably guys like Farabee, Cirelli, etc.

 

[Son of Donegal]

Between Markstrom and Ullmark, it has to be Ullmark. He's younger and better - and Fitzy seems really serious about getting the RIGHT goalie.

My question is - with a goalie...is NJD a contender? Will Dougie be back to 100% in 2024-25?
Will we see a bounce back from Meier?

Or does NJD need to make other moves to get where they need to be. They are really light in the middle. Could they use a beefier 3 and 4C?

 

[minibrodeur]

I was wondering about Markstrom and Coleman @ 50% each for #10

 

[cheesymc]

Ducks offer John Gibson, Urho Vaakanainen, Max Jones, 1st (31/32th), 2nd (35th)

 

[Nocashstyle]

Realizing that the #10 straight up for Markstrom is too rich for NJ, even at 50% retention, I’m curious what the flames can add to put this over the top for NJ fans.

Brodeur has called Markstrom a top 5 goalie, so I suspect he’s still one of the top targets for NJ.

Does #10 for Markstrom (50%) and #28 get it done?

In a vacuum, sure it might be “fair,” but I don’t think there would many, if any at all, happy Devils fans, but probably a lot of happy Flames fans. So that says something about the value.