Proposal: Devils need a goal scorer.

MB3

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I would do Panarin at 50% retained for Saliyev, a conditional 3rd (2nd based on a conference championship appearance) and a dart throw like Traff.

Panarin at 50% retained is an extremely valuable asset. He’s not worth Nemec AND Saliyev, not even close, but he’s certainly worth one of them.
 

Oneiro

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Devils will have 5.7M in cap space by the deadline.

Meier isn't playing with Jack, he's more well suited with Nico, so really, if we're talking top 6, this about Jack's winger. Panarin and Hall don't make sense particularly because they like having the puck on their stick and they both play almost zero defense with no physicality. So Devils need an opportunistic sniper who doesn't need many touches and can retrieve the puck along the boards. To me, that screams Palmieri.

I can imagine Fitz may be fine with Palat strapped to Jack and Bratt and look into a 3LW to get some scoring depth. Right now both Haula and Mercer are, at best, playing net neutral against their competition. But they can't generate offense - this will bite us in the ass in the playoffs.

Cotter-Lazar-Bastian w/ Tatar subbing is fine as a fourth line. Probably capable of outperforming expectations in the playoffs.

Vatrano makes a lot of sense, Duck fans seem ambivalent on moving him. Not sure who else fits that profile. I don't see a B. Tanev or a player like that generating offense. We're a good defensive team, not sure how much more we need to stack as far as defensive forwards.
 

McDuffz88

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I would do Panarin at 50% retained for Saliyev, a conditional 3rd (2nd based on a conference championship appearance) and a dart throw like Traff.

Panarin at 50% retained is an extremely valuable asset. He’s not worth Nemec AND Saliyev, not even close, but he’s certainly worth one of them.
Is Panarin a valuable asset at 50% retained? Absolutely. Is he worth a 2nd OA RD in Nemec? Absolutely not. Is he worth a LD in Silayev who went top 10 & is looking like an absolute unicorn of a player being a 6 foot 7 monster who skates like the wind? Absolutely not. You are misjudging the value of Panarin. To put it in perspective Nemec was going to be available to trade for Tkachuk before he signed his extension. That's the type of player you trade for. A player who will be with your core long term. These aren't just random prospects we're trading. Nemec/Silayev are one of the most coveted prospects in the entire league & if available can get almost any player in the league as long as they're available. Panarin isn't the guy you go for in this instance.
 

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I think Palat is playing fine and I wouldn't mind keeping him.

However, the intangibles he brings, perhaps a team like Buffalo would be interrsted in swapping him for a bottom 6er. The Sabres appear like they could use veteran leadership and Palat has experience helping young players find their way in the league.

Devils could add a 2nd to offset the salary going over. Buff has 10 million in available cap space.

McLeod for Palat + a 2nd in 2025

half you guys?

none. you have not found a single devils fan who supports your fantasy.

The top six would look great on paper, but we're not building a fantasy team. We need sandpaper and ideally someone who can win face-offs in a pinch.
 

My3Sons

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get that YOU vote no here which is fine

bread fulfills OP ask for scorer
is affordable at full retention w/acceptable cap dump

you may not want to pay my price and that is fair topic open to debate, not dismissal
I think it’s dismissive when you make a proposal that doesn’t even work under the cap. At least look at it and see what might work in reality. You clearly only thought about what you what when putting this together.
 

HugeInTheShire

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I don't do think the Devils will be looking for a middle 6 winger. They likely won't be looking for a long term piece though so the top prospects shouldn't be on the table, I believe they have 3 picks in the second round and those most certainly would be.

I think Palmieri, Vatrano, Nelson or Brandon Tanev I also think they'll look for a bottom 6 center and Faksa, Evans, BJugstad or Sturm could be targets.
 
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Smitty426

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Devils will have 5.7M in cap space by the deadline.

Meier isn't playing with Jack, he's more well suited with Nico, so really, if we're talking top 6, this about Jack's winger. Panarin and Hall don't make sense particularly because they like having the puck on their stick and they both play almost zero defense with no physicality. So Devils need an opportunistic sniper who doesn't need many touches and can retrieve the puck along the boards. To me, that screams Palmieri.

I can imagine Fitz may be fine with Palat strapped to Jack and Bratt and look into a 3LW to get some scoring depth. Right now both Haula and Mercer are, at best, playing net neutral against their competition. But they can't generate offense - this will bite us in the ass in the playoffs.

Cotter-Lazar-Bastian w/ Tatar subbing is fine as a fourth line. Probably capable of outperforming expectations in the playoffs.

Vatrano makes a lot of sense, Duck fans seem ambivalent on moving him. Not sure who else fits that profile. I don't see a B. Tanev or a player like that generating offense. We're a good defensive team, not sure how much more we need to stack as far as defensive forwards.
I agree. Would you put Brock Nelson in that same bucket? He could play C in a pinch.
Also, if Boston were thinking about move Trent Frederick is that an option? 43% in faceoffs 15th in hits, would be helpful thing in playoffs. question is what is going back the other way? Picks/ B prospects, sure. Casey no, Sil, no. Is that enough?

I don't do think the Devils will be looking for a middle 6 winger. They likely won't be looking for a long term piece though so the top prospects shouldn't be on the table, I believe they have 3 picks in the second round and those most certainly would be.

I think Palmieri, Vatrano, Nelson or Brandon Tanev I also think they'll look for a bottom 6 center and Faksa, Evans, BJugstad or Sturm could be targets.
what 2 players do you see being bumped from our lineup with 1 from each group you have mentioned?
 

HugeInTheShire

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what 2 players do you see being bumped from our lineup with 1 from each group you have mentioned?
Bastian and Tatar for the most part, assuming Lasar comes back after Christmas. I don't think they'll be the scratch all the time though just more often than not. Unless of course they trade 1 of them as salary going back.
 
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TBF1972

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I think it’s dismissive when you make a proposal that doesn’t even work under the cap. At least look at it and see what might work in reality. You clearly only thought about what you what when putting this together.
i think you overrate his abilities
 
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bernmeister

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I think it’s dismissive when you make a proposal that doesn’t even work under the cap. At least look at it and see what might work in reality. You clearly only thought about what you what when putting this together.
factually untrue
you want to zing me so bad you ignore facts

I said bread REDUCED TO 6 PER
add elc Berard = ,7

I originally had nemec elc, but take that out
yes Sil's rights have zero cap hit

BUT I ALSO SAID ADD ACCEPTABLE CAP DUMP
try not to cherry pick
 

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