I think Subban at 50% retention will get a 2nd at the deadline, given Tampa's 2nd is probably worth less than everyone else's how does Tampa outbid that offer?
I don't think Subban will get a 1st today, but I could see something like a 1st to NJ for Subban at 25%, NJ gives a 4th to a team to eat 25% happening if the acquiring team is unwilling to add picks to get someone to eat 25%. That would be a smaller return than what Savard got.
Subban isn't worth a 1st round pick even at 50% retained.
Yeah, I don’t think a lot of people on the boards were thinking Nick Foligno would cost a 1st and two 4ths but he did.* 44 games
* 19 pts (prorates to 35 pts)
* 5 goals (prorates to 9 goals)
* 5 PP points (26% of total production).
* 52% D zone starts with 51.3% Corsi for
* 50% retention = $4.5M
35 pts with 9 goals at $4.5M. Lets see what kind of season he has but if he has those numbers or higher at the deadline, that is worth a late 1st to some teams but it's borderline worth a 2nd and B prospect. Subban is not the guy he was in his prime but I feel fans are exaggerating how low he he gone. Typical
Would anybody trade a 1st now? Probably not cause it's rare to trade one even with protection before the season starts. You have to quantify your 1st round value which varies from top 10 to bottom 10 or 15.
Yeah, I don’t think a lot of people on the boards were thinking Nick Foligno would cost a 1st and two 4ths but he did.
But it’s September and the TDL is six months from now. (Or whenever it’s scheduled.) Subban could be playing worst hockey of life or killing it. Life is full of surprises.
And he’s only making 2m in salary, so it’s easy enough to get a 3rd team to do retention because it would be very little real money.
We paid him a 6m signing bonus in the off-season so giving him away right now wouldn’t make much sense in terms of money.We ain’t getting nothing for him, might as well just ride it out. Money isn’t really a issue
This is a joke, right? Subban isn’t a Norris candidate anymore and his value is at an all time low. Marner has been playing at a 90+ pt pace for awhile and hasn’t even turned 25 yet. I’d take a shot on Subban but I’d ask for retention and wouldn’t move much more than Kerfoot and some picks for him. And that’s being generous as far as I’m concerned.Marner???
Dude chose the wrong position to play. Should have gone forward.One of the most overrated players ever. I never understood why he got so much attention.
Still a decent 2nd pairing option that logged 22:22 last season (only 7 seconds behind Severson for most ATOI). Probably not worth a $4.5M cap hit, but not that big of a risk for teams to take for only one season as he may do better with less minutes in a contract year.
We ain’t getting nothing for him, might as well just ride it out. Money isn’t really a issue
so according to you, they are gonna get something for him
50 % retention on Marner right?Marner for Subban+Holtz+1st
The ol' double negative joke is truly low hanging fruit.