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An OTL is more points than a regulation loss. It’s not the worst outcome.
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An OTL is more points than a regulation loss. It’s not the worst outcome.
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When has Nashville ever had forwards lol...maybe for a hot minute they had a good forward group in the Subban years? Not-so-coincidentally that's when they finally got out of their first-round/quarterfinal rut.
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The goal is to make the playoffs and an OTL helps more then a regulation lose.
lol You asked me this same thing like 2 months ago
Am I worried about the future? Not really no. I’m nowhere near as high on them as I was though. They looked like they should’ve been Hawks-lite. Talent is still there to get there but after this shit show my expectation is more down to consistent contender.
Meier, Marino, Siegs. All 3 of those guys need to get their heads out of their asses in the future. If Marino and Siegs are not the elite shutdown D they’re supposed to be then it’s going to make things exponentially harder for this team to succeed at the highest level. Meier seems pretty self explanatory. Mercer has sucked this year too but at least he hasn’t sucked as much as he did to start the year.
The personnel “should” be there. It’s a matter of them actually being what they’re supposed to be. They need to find the goalie. They need an elite coach.
ZachaFlockaFlame
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I mean their defense is nothing overly special either besides Josi + Saros is having a mediocre year to his standards. He's still adapting enough to win with less which is also less we can say about our coaching staff currently
Their issues are super correctable, this isn't a team that needs big pieces at center or defense. They legitimately have everything you can need besides a coach + goaltender.
They didn’t even really have forwards then. Arvidsson-Johansen-Forsberg was sick but still pretty meh on the whole. That top 4 D just might have been the best ever
They’ve gone from 46.72% xGF under Hynes last year to 52.03% this year. This despite selling off some pieces in the offseason (though they did sign ROR, on paper the roster is probably worse). Saros actually hasn’t been great this year. He’s getting a lot out of that roster.
BTW, we’ve dropped from about 55% to 50%, of course a lot of that is injury related.
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Imagine if Hatakka ends up being an upgrade? Lmao. I like his game so far.
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I still think they can get to that level, but ad you said, they need proper goaltending and proper coaching/system. Those are the elements. This core is still pretty damn young overall.
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They just don’t look dangerous every shift this year and they didn’t in 21-22 either.
I’m not saying they are a bad rush team. Just not explosive like last year.
I remember liking him as a prospect and thinking he could’ve been a guy. Then he got hammered by injuries. Fortunately he got past all that. I think my issue with Hatakka as a potential Siegs replacement is the stylistic difference. In a vacuum assuming they’re the same caliber of player I’m taking Siegs every time because we need him a lot more. Now if he can’t manage to get things back on track we won’t really have a choice but hopefully he does and we don’t have to worry about that
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That drop could probably be almost totally attributed to the drop/injuries from Nico and Jack.
At this point last season Nico had 47 points he has 32 now
At this point last season Jack had 67 points he has 45 now
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We’re kind of diddling ourselves with Ruff.
I don’t really think Ruff could FUBAR a team like this that’s fairly healtny or with a goalie that’s not post-nervous breakdown/new goalie coach. Maybe Travis Green couldn’t either if he actually were head coach.
But I really don’t know how long we’re supposed to give him. There will be better options this offseason. Fitz really needs to think about doing better with who is gonna be behind the bench next year.
It’s gonna get to a point where this isn’t gonna be like bringing back Hynes when the team was going to suck anyway.
I don’t really think Ruff could FUBAR a team like this that’s fairly healtny or with a goalie that’s not post-nervous breakdown/new goalie coach. Maybe Travis Green couldn’t either if he actually were head coach.
But I really don’t know how long we’re supposed to give him. There will be better options this offseason. Fitz really needs to think about doing better with who is gonna be behind the bench next year.
It’s gonna get to a point where this isn’t gonna be like bringing back Hynes when the team was going to suck anyway.
The problem in my view was that we passed up at least 8 opportunities to shoot in close trying to make a perfect thread-the-needle pass through at least one defender to an open person for a layup. 0 of those 8 passes resulted in shots. That's the game there. You're shooting against a sub .900 goalie and you're not shooting high danger or medium danger shots when he's likely to give a rebound at some point - like our goalie did with 1:20 to go in OT.
Jack is not Jack yet. That was obvious, he was afraid to go after pucks on the boards, barely even reached his stick out. There were moments of his magic but they were few and far between. We also had some good shot chances that just missed the net - Toffoli missed a couple of glorious shot attempts totally wide.
Ruined my great seats. We're declining. It can't be argued. I don't feel confident going into the stadium game. I don't want to lose another major NHL game like we did to the Rags.
Jack is not Jack yet. That was obvious, he was afraid to go after pucks on the boards, barely even reached his stick out. There were moments of his magic but they were few and far between. We also had some good shot chances that just missed the net - Toffoli missed a couple of glorious shot attempts totally wide.
Ruined my great seats. We're declining. It can't be argued. I don't feel confident going into the stadium game. I don't want to lose another major NHL game like we did to the Rags.
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We need to win all the games before that before worrying about that game.
A loss on home ice to shitty Seattle would really be quite the confidence killer.
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I don't think Ruff is the answer but I also don't think this team is ready to be competitive as is.
I think our defenders need a couple more years of maturity.
I think we need a couple more forwards and probably a better bottom 6 center option too.
I think we need another goalie.
I don't think Ruff is our biggest problem
And on top of all that, if Jack isn't firing on cylinders I don't think this team is difficult to beat
I think our defenders need a couple more years of maturity.
I think we need a couple more forwards and probably a better bottom 6 center option too.
I think we need another goalie.
I don't think Ruff is our biggest problem
And on top of all that, if Jack isn't firing on cylinders I don't think this team is difficult to beat
Yeah they were looking for a pretty play a little too much. Tough to do against the Canes due to them protecting the slot well.
Kochetkov though, he actually has a .920 save % since 12/15. He is playing really well.
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People underestimated how good of a roster it was to have Damon f***ing Severson as your 3RD, they also got super lucky with injuries last year for the most part. It was a pretty charmed season in that regard.
I don’t buy the D needing more maturity when the 2 guys who need to be better the most are 26 and have been great in the past. Luke and Nemec are already at minimum really good. Sure they’ll get even better but they’re already good enough. They are also having to carry a heavier load than they should with Siegs and Dougie out. If those 2 are healthy and Marino/Siegs didn’t suck there’s no reason a D group of Luke, Dougie, Siegs, Nemec, Marino, Miller couldn’t be a contending group.
I also don’t really buy needing more forwards. We don’t really need anyone of consequence that couldn’t be had for a mid round pick or something. Haula should be the 3C but Lindy is seemingly allergic to keeping him there. It’s not a matter of more forwards. It’s a matter of the forwards we have playing up to snuff. Our highest paid forward should not be one of our worst forwards. Mercer needs to be better. Jack needs to get back to being Jack. I don’t see how a top 9 of Bratt, Jack, Nico, Holtz, Toffoli, Mercer, Meier, Palat, Haula isn’t a talented enough top 9. Lazar’s great. Nosek is fine. Nate’s fell off this year. We don’t need more than a depth add up front. It’s not a personnel issue.
Hard not to be cranky about this team, it has goalie sives one night then tonight we have a good goalie performance and we can't score.
Throw on the fact that we can't even give the league and team money for stadium series jerseys and merch without it being a giant pain in the ass.
But hey at least renewals are coming out on Monday!
Throw on the fact that we can't even give the league and team money for stadium series jerseys and merch without it being a giant pain in the ass.
But hey at least renewals are coming out on Monday!
Luke, Nemec, Hatakka all looked solid tonight and Bahl was better than usual. Our forwards wouldn't take some shots. We lost.
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Just do it over
I’m at the point where I just think it’s best to change the coach if we miss the playoffs. The Rangers are on their third head coach since Ruff was hired. The Flyers are on their second non-interim. The Capitals are on their third. The f***in Islanders are on their third. The f***in Jackets are also on their third (really their fourth lol but he didn’t even make it to coach a single practice) since Ruff was hired. Looks like number four (technical five) will be there next year when the assured regime change happens.
Only the Canes and Pens haven’t made a coaching change since Ruff was hired. The Pens just had their first playoff miss under that coach last year. The Canes have yet to have a playoff miss.
It’s really getting to be about that time.
There couldn’t have been too many people who weren’t shocked he survived 21-22 and you can’t tell me Fitz didn’t have his finger on the button during the 1st intermission of game 3 of last season.
I’m at the point where I just think it’s best to change the coach if we miss the playoffs. The Rangers are on their third head coach since Ruff was hired. The Flyers are on their second non-interim. The Capitals are on their third. The f***in Islanders are on their third. The f***in Jackets are also on their third (really their fourth lol but he didn’t even make it to coach a single practice) since Ruff was hired. Looks like number four (technical five) will be there next year when the assured regime change happens.
Only the Canes and Pens haven’t made a coaching change since Ruff was hired. The Pens just had their first playoff miss under that coach last year. The Canes have yet to have a playoff miss.
It’s really getting to be about that time.
There couldn’t have been too many people who weren’t shocked he survived 21-22 and you can’t tell me Fitz didn’t have his finger on the button during the 1st intermission of game 3 of last season.
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Without doubt it is time to change the coach, although today's new system stymied and surprised the Canes.
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I don’t think he’s our biggest problem either, but I just don’t see running it back with him.
But like I said, Fitz needs to do better than the Travis Green promotion, because that has real potential to be a downgrade.
And there’s no way Rogalski shouldn’t go before Ruff. He probably got a 9th place ribbon to go on the wall of Davey boy for Vitek’s almost shutout tonight.
I also wonder if it will also lead to fewer goals like the Hynes turn it back turtle system did? Too soon to say.
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