Devils discussion (news, notes and speculation) - part III

[NjDevsRR]

And he’s also getting less ice time than he was in San Jose by a wide margin lol

Per 60 rates take that into account

 

[devilsblood]

Why does there always have to be a whipping boy? Timos quality of play has been very strong. The points are not as much for X reasons.

Now, if he was playing like ass along with the point production dragging then sure, whip away. But that’s literally the opposite of what’s going on.

The team is struggling to score goals. Timo as our highest paid fwd scoring at a career low rate is part of that discussion.

Now while I think this is an interesting discussion, I think it has been reset by his game last night. I think last night showed that Timo could be a true impact player on that 3rd line. Just one game, need to see more, but if he continues to play that well, and the 3rd line is able to produce, that is a significant twist to the story.

 

[NjDevsRR]

Site is back to being unbearable on mobile with all the ads smh

Buy the sponsor for a year, so much better and worth it

 

[devilsblood]

Site is back to being unbearable on mobile with all the ads smh

The $1 a month option? I'm not on this site on my phone all that much, but I'm thinking about it.

 

[devilsblood]

And he’s also getting less ice time than he was in San Jose by a wide margin lol

As noted above I was talking 5v5 scoring/60 so his total toi does not factor into that.

And aside from his last year and a half in SJ, he's averaging more 5v5 toi per game in NJ then he did in SJ.

 

[longislanddevil]

Fairly in-depth article on our prospect pool. The top three is no surprise.

New Jersey Devils are No. 17 in 2025 NHL prospect pool rankings

The Devils' pool is one of the league's quirkiest in that it's led by three of the sport's top young defensemen.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Devils731]

Fairly in-depth article on our prospect pool. The top three is no surprise.

New Jersey Devils are No. 17 in 2025 NHL prospect pool rankings

The Devils' pool is one of the league's quirkiest in that it's led by three of the sport's top young defensemen.

www.nytimes.com

Also, Grits is too old for the list but Wheeler in the comments would put him 4th; for anyone wondering.

 

[tailfins]

Not exactly sure where this goes, but some fun Gomer content for those interested

 

[NjDevsRR]

These are going to be awesome

 

[My3Sons]

There isnt any excuse, he literally puts up points at a level above Nico Hischier but then gets hate for not putting up enough points because hes PP2.

He has been more then good enough. If you say points dont tell the story - he is 3rd on the team in expected goals, top 4 in points per 60, Corsi is top 4 on the team (above Bratt), top 3 in on ice goals %

He has been more then good., he would probably have 5 more goals and 10 more points had he been PP 1.

so he puts up points at a third line level?

 

[Satans Hockey]

These are going to be awesome

That bright green is the kind I never want to see the Devils ever do again. It's so bright lol

 

[NjDevsRR]

That bright green is the kind I never want to see the Devils ever do again. It's so bright lol

That logo tho, badass

 

[Satans Hockey]

That logo tho, badass

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Agreed the logo is great but that green, yikes. Would be better with this green...

 

[None Shall Pass]

From 32 Thoughts, btw. Pretty Devils heavy today: 32 Thoughts: How record revenues in NHL could impact salary cap, next CBA

1. Bad news for Team Sweden as Jacob Markstrom will “miss some time,” according to Sheldon Keefe, after getting hurt Wednesday against Boston. Linus Ullmark is a question, too, and now there is concern that whatever lingering injury is bothering William Karlsson could cause him to miss the 4 Nations Face-Off. We should get clarity soon. Hopefully, everything works out for him.
2. The wish is that Markstrom recovers as quick as possible. One thing to remember: if Jake Allen plays 40 games, the Canadiens get a second-round selection at the upcoming draft. If not, it’s a third. (He’s at 15.)

8. The Hurricanes and Rangers are two of the teams with permission to talk to J.T. Miller. Believe the New York offer was Filip Chytil, a first-rounder and a prospect. I get very mixed messages on New Jersey. The Rangers have the cap room to do it, but the Devils would need to perform roster surgery to pull it off. Yes, they struggled until pounding Boston on Wednesday, but that’s a good team. I’m not convinced about Dallas, either. I always assume I’m missing something, though.

10. A few days after frustrated comments to a Slovakian newspaper, things have cooled down around Simon Nemec. The Devils communicated to anyone who asked they have zero interest in the dealing the 2022 second-overall selection. If anything, the Olympic qualifier injury last August hurt his chances of making New Jersey. Things will reset next fall. Let’s see what unfolds then.

18. Tom McVie died this week at age 89. Very, very friendly, he had one of the most distinctive voices in the sport, gravelly and unmistakeable. At one of the Roger Neilson coaches’ clinics, Dave Barr, who played 614 NHL games, told a phenomenal story about playing for McVie on the 1991-92 New Jersey Devils. Barr got stripped carrying the puck in his own zone, leading to a breakaway. Their goalie made the save, but Barr, charging back as hard as he could to make up for his mistake, knocked the puck into his own net. An absolutely disastrous shift. Sitting on the bench, “I could feel (McVie’s) eyes burning holes through me,” Barr laughed years later. “Finally he yelled, ‘Not only did you get the goal, you also got an assist!’ All I could see what my teammates around me, shaking as they tried to hold their laughter.”

 

[BostonDevil]

Buy the sponsor for a year, so much better and worth it

Think I'm going to do it

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Done!

 

[Emperoreddy]

Agreed the logo is great but that green, yikes. Would be better with this green...

Man I love the dark forest green

 

[njdevil26]

Still REALLY don't get some people wanting to trade Hamilton. Slow start because he didn't play hockey for a very long time. He's on pace for 51 pts which would be the second best year of HIS CAREER.

None of Casey, Nemec, Kovacevic or Pesce are going to come remotely close to replacing that offensive production.

It is just simply making the team worse by trading him. You want to have two kids thrown into responsible roles and big shoes to fill when the team is in their contention window.

 

[Oneiro]

Still REALLY don't get some people wanting to trade Hamilton. Slow start because he didn't play hockey for a very long time. He's on pace for 51 pts which would be the second best year of HIS CAREER.

None of Casey, Nemec, Kovacevic or Pesce are going to come remotely close to replacing that offensive production.

It is just simply making the team worse by trading him. You want to have two kids thrown into responsible roles and big shoes to fill when the team is in their contention window.

JP Gambatese had a Twitter thread on this but the best performing bottom sixes in the league are FLA, DAL and VGK, who get about 1/3rd of their goal scoring from those guys. Multiple conference finals, not to mention cup finals, for all of them. Our bottom six accounts for 1/4th.

The cap is what it is, you have to deal with it. You're trading a 50-60 pt d-man with middling defense to add 100+ points up front with that cap space. The team is good defensively and I'd argue that has far more to do with Keefe than the personnel playing in the bottom six.

Luke will have an uptick in points - his kind of luck always reverses itself. Nemec will be sheltered with Dillon and you can roll the other two pairs for 22 minutes a night.

If you take the empty nets out of it, we have lost quite a few one goal games. That extra jump up front is absolutely the difference. You can look at the latest game against Boston and how good things happen when you get the third line going and the top two lines still control play, even if they're cold at 5v5.