Devils discussion (news, notes and speculation) - part III

[devilsblood]

Timo Meier’s highest scoring season, by goals, was 2022. 1.83 points per 60 that full season at even strength. He had other years with higher points per 60. He’s missing a couple goals at 5 on 5, but beyond that, it’s mainly the lack of PP production that makes him look different. The year we traded for him he had 13 PP goals vs 3 this year. 18 even strength vs 12 this year (57 games vs 52).

Where are you getting these numbers?

I'm seeing 2.76 pts/60 at ES in 21-22. In 18-19 he put up 2.89. This year he's at 2.06.

https://www.naturalstattrick.com/playerreport.php?fromseason=20242025&thruseason=20242025&stype=2&sit=ev&stdoi=oi&rate=y&v=p&playerid=8478414

 

[None Shall Pass]

Dog someone get this team an actual beat "reporter"

 

[Mgd31]

When was the last time this team won a game they shouldn’t have won? The OT win against the Islanders? That was like 3 months ago.

Dog someone get this team an actual beat "reporter"

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Kristy is off the boat here but that’s uncalled for by Nichols who is a clown.

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

Where are you getting these numbers?

I'm seeing 2.76 pts/60 at ES in 21-22. In 18-19 he put up 2.89. This year he's at 2.06.

https://www.naturalstattrick.com/playerreport.php?fromseason=20242025&thruseason=20242025&stype=2&sit=ev&stdoi=oi&rate=y&v=p&playerid=8478414

5 on 5 is the category I’m using on that website. I assume even strength includes 4 on 4, 3 on 3?

 

[Killing Joke]

Slow team with bad shooting and low offensive zone time and barely above average shooting speed.

 

[devilsblood]

5 on 5 is the category I’m using on that website. I assume even strength includes 4 on 4, 3 on 3?

Then the 21-22 rate is 2.71, and 2.58 in 18-19. 1.84 this year.

The bigger 5v5 issue this year though is his goal rate is .69 per 60 which is a career low aside from 30 something games as a rookie. He was typically above 1 in SJ including 1.21 in 18-19.

5v5 shot rate is also a career low.

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

Then the 21-22 rate is 2.71, and 2.58 in 18-19. 1.84 this year.

The bigger 5v5 issue this year though is his goal rate is .69 per 60 which is a career low aside from 30 something games as a rookie. He was typically above 1 in SJ including 1.21 in 18-19.

5v5 shot rate is also a career low.

He’s missing a bunch of goals at 5 on 5 this year based on his chance creation. I don’t think there would be much of an observable difference in his play other than it just not going in. And I guess it’s expected to have fewer individual chances and shots when you’re not the clear number 1 option on a horrible team.

 

[devilsblood]

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He’s missing a bunch of goals at 5 on 5 this year based on his chance creation. I don’t think there would be much of an observable difference in his play other than it just not going in. And I guess it’s expected to have fewer individual chances and shots when you’re not the clear number 1 option on a horrible team.

Not finishing is a big part of the problem though. And though he was not typically this bad, finishing was never a strength. His 5v5 shooting % is actually better this year then his last 2 seasons in SJ. He just got a bunch more shots on net in those years.........though he is getting nearly as many shots off this year. So missing the net more, and not burying them when he does get them on net.


Should be noted SJ was good in 18-19.

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

Not finishing is a big part of the problem though. And though he was not typically this bad, finishing was never a strength. His 5v5 shooting % is actually better this year then his last 2 seasons in SJ. He just got a bunch more shots on net in those years.........though he is getting nearly as many shots off this year. So missing the net more, and not burying them when he does get them on net.


Should be noted SJ was good in 18-19.

His production that year is about what we should expect from him. Hopefully he can get close to that if he finishes the year anything like last year (17 goals in the final 23 games).

 

[Bleedred]

@dgibb10

Why exactly do you want Spencer Knight?

Because he was a hot prospect 3-6 years ago?

I noticed your proposal the other day but forgot to comment on it then.

I remember other Spencer Knight proposals floating around this year, but can’t remember if those were also posted by yourself or someone else.

 

[Marv4Life]

I'm gonna keep my mouth shut about Fitz right now.
Maybe I'm being a daft optimistic idiot, and maybe the NTC are screwing things up but those who are saying we don't have anyone to trade with to get us a decent return, you sound like Dallas Mavs or Laker fans prior to last night, different league or not. Be careful.