Devils discussion (news, notes and speculation) - part II

[Satans Hockey]

As long as the boards are static during play then I think it will add to the presentation of the game.

I couldn’t access the article to see if that was mentioned.

From the article below but I would gladly sacrifice not seeing "Devils power play with some flames" because it means we are going to see a countless amount of moving ads during the stoppages so we have more shit shoved in our face as if it's not enough already.

It will also bring in more revenue but will us fans see any benefit in reduced ticket prices or concessions? Absolutely not.

"During a Comets game, for example, ads that are on the boards will be displayed in a static format without any movement, according to Esche.

Stoppages in play and intermissions during games are opportunities where creativity will be on display."

 

[devilsfan950003]

On pace for 1/3 as many goals as last year, woof

Holtz's time on ice has hit under 10 minutes a game. He's a 4th liner.

 

[HBK27]

Other others have noted he’s unlikely to do anything dumb in a first game back. NJ has MacDemrid in a worst case. Given how this season has gone it is something less of a concern than last season.

I'll give you that Rempe is probably less likely to do something dumb his first game back, but unlikely is giving him too much credit.

I'd still send MacDermid over the boards everytime he's out there and have all the guys keep their heads on a swivel. Don't care if that alters our game the 5 minutes he sees the ice - no sense in risking injury against this dipshit in a January game.

 

[HBK27]

Holtz's time on ice has hit under 10 minutes a game. He's a 4th liner.

Holtz' ATOI is up 30 seconds this season to 12:06 from his career average, though a lot of that seems to be from earlier in the season.

Past 5 games he's averaging 10:37 - with the 13:01 in the game versus Edmonton driving that number up. Good chance that was a lot of garbage time for Holtz as Vegas found themselves down 5-0 in that game.

 

[Better Call Sal]

What if I wrap like this without hockey gloves on?

Damn, Dougie's actually came out halfway decent.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

Oh ffs what a nightmare. It's even worse that it's our AHL team. I know soccer has them but it's not even remotely the same thing, the field of play is bigger, they arent "in bounds" like hockey boards and the ball is way bigger and easier to see than the puck. This is a nightmare. It's bad enough we have the digital board ads on TV...

honest question, why does this bother you so much..................?

 

[HBK27]

honest question, why does this bother you so much..................?

Probably because there's a good chance this makes the live viewing experience worse for fans. I know they're claiming (for now) that the ads on the boards will be static during play, but even then you can see from the image that there will be a reflection on the ice that could be distracting. Maybe the extra stuff these boards can provide during stoppages will be a net positive, but I'm doubtful.

The digital ads for live broadcasts were bad enough - I know some people weren't bothered by them, but it took me a while to be able to tune them out and not be distracted by either the animation themselves or more often players/sticks/pucks being blurred or disappearing due to glitches with the boards.

Generally speaking though, actions taken to increase revenue for a team tend to come at some expense to fans.

Will be interested to hear feedback from Utica fans once these are used during games.

 

[Satans Hockey]

honest question, why does this bother you so much..................?

I hate ads being shoved down our throats with 0 benefit to anyone but the owners/players.

I hate how all this added revenue has not benefited fans one bit. I'd have less problems if all this new revenue benefited the fans with lower costs to see games. Instead we now have ads on helmets, ads on jerseys, digital ads on TV, more ads on the ice. The nonstop betting shit all over and at the games.

Did ticket prices come down? Nope.
Did concession prices come down? Nope.
Did merchandise prices come down? Nope.

They all keep going up and up instead. It's even worse when these arenas were built with tax payer money.

Here's an honest question for you, why doesn't any of this bother you?

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

I guess I just dont see the big deal? but to each their own.

literally everything in sports is for the benefit of the owners. It sucks but it is what it is. It is never going to change.

 

[HBK27]

I hate ads being shoved down our throats with 0 benefit to anyone but the owners/players.

I hate how all this added revenue has not benefited fans one bit. I'd have less problems if all this new revenue benefited the fans with lower costs to see games. Instead we now have ads on helmets, ads on jerseys, digital ads on TV, more ads on the ice. The nonstop betting shit all over and at the games.

Did ticket prices come down? Nope.
Did concession prices come down? Nope.
Did merchandise prices come down? Nope.

They all keep going up and up instead. It's even worse when these arenas were built with tax payer money.

Here's an honest question for you, why doesn't any of this bother you?

Yeah, the betting crap is another great example of a revenue generator for the league that completely sucks for fans. Not only do you have to hear about the odds all game long, they not do intermission/pre-game segments on this crap which are nothing but glorified ads. Or how the ticker now shows odds instead of actual stats.

And that doesn't even cover how many lives are being destroyed by sports betting. Or that something like 3% of players actually come out ahead or break-even in the long run and players that do really well just get banned by the sites.

 

[Satans Hockey]

I guess I just dont see the big deal? but to each their own.

literally everything in sports is for the benefit of the owners. It sucks but it is what it is. It is never going to change.

Its because we have no spines and I'm honest enough to throw myself into that category. We would need to organize a protest to change things and I know it's a pointless endeavor here so I don't have the energy to organize one myself. I would absolutely participate in one though if we had a legit chance at changing anything here.

European soccer fans would protest and riot against some of the stuff our owners do with ticket prices and other stuff. It's the only thing I'm really jealous about with how they do stuff besides how short of distances they have to go for road games.

 

[TheBeerNerd]

Its because we have no spines and I'm honest enough to throw myself into that category. We would need to organize a protest to change things and I know it's a pointless endeavor here so I don't have the energy to organize one myself. I would absolutely participate in one though if we had a legit chance at changing anything here.

European soccer fans would protest and riot against some of the stuff our owners do with ticket prices and other stuff. It's the only thing I'm really jealous about with how they do stuff besides how short of distances they have to go for road games.

I mean, they've also had sports betting and associated scandals with it for decades before it got the OK in North America. Hardly a year goes by with some sort of shady stuff happens in a top European soccer league.

You're not wrong here, by the way. Short of a revolution I don't see things changing, but that doesn't mean I have to like it.

 

[RSeen]

We are so dominant defensively. Love that we are playing a style that is transferable to the playoffs - all our additions have been impactful.

I want to see us make a big move at the playoffs. Whether its a Gourde or a Nelson type, we are one of the top teams with a terrific coach.

 

[SETHROLLINS]

We are so dominant defensively. Love that we are playing a style that is transferable to the playoffs - all our additions have been impactful.

I want to see us make a big move at the playoffs. Whether its a Gourde or a Nelson type, we are one of the top teams with a terrific coach.

A few weeks back Fitz had said top 9 winger and a 4C would be his main targets. You can get those without trading a first round pick. It’s a great position to be in.

 

[JimEIV]

Still would like another Noesen/Cotter like player added.

A LW that could play up would be perfect.

 

[Incharge1976]

I mean, they've also had sports betting and associated scandals with it for decades before it got the OK in North America. Hardly a year goes by with some sort of shady stuff happens in a top European soccer league.

You're not wrong here, by the way. Short of a revolution I don't see things changing, but that doesn't mean I have to like it.

The gambling ads are the biggest BS in the last decade. I read an article that was talking about Gambler's Anonymous. It was mostly started by a bunch of people who were betting on horses. Over the years a majority of the people coming in were in their 40s but in the last 5 years it's mostly early 20's men betting online.

That's essentially who they go after. I'm seeing stupid Fan Duel ad as I type this.

 

[youryeah]

someone must have told jack to stop being a mope in interviews because lately he's been fantastic. actually giving out answers lol

 

[None Shall Pass]

The best thing about back-to-back shutouts is not having to read "Should've had that" about a puck that bounces off four guys before getting struck by lightning and then cursed by an Aztec shaman.

 

[Marv4Life]

It's still early but I am impressed with this defense despite a few duds(*cough CBJ*). Gotta be a Keefe thing.

 

[PizzaAndPucks]

It's always a treat getting to hear this man talk hockey during a Devils broadcast. Super knowledgeable, well spoken & a great sense of humor. I hope he does this job for as long as he pleases.

 

[Emperoreddy]

The best thing about back-to-back shutouts is not having to read "Should've had that" about a puck that bounces off four guys before getting struck by lightning and then cursed by an Aztec shaman.

Yeah but did the shaman screen the goalie?

 

[Triumph]

It's still early but I am impressed with this defense despite a few duds(*cough CBJ*). Gotta be a Keefe thing.

The idea of calling that game a dud is so funny. It's not a Keefe thing, it's 'hockey is a game where the best team doesn't win a lot of the time' thing.

 

[JimEIV]

The idea of calling that game a dud is so funny. It's not a Keefe thing, it's 'hockey is a game where the best team doesn't win a lot of the time' thing.

We have waves of needing a tremendous amount shots to get a goal. It's been a common occurrence for a very long time.

This year we can stem the tide a bit longer with stronger defense but there is an issue that can/should be fixed with a bit more depth and secondary scoring.

 

[Saugus]

We’re looking great right now, but the key is sustaining it, then peaking at the right time.

There will be more ups and downs before the end of the season, and we need to remember not to get overconfident, or too down when we hit the inevitable rough patch. But I really want to get hot again in April so we roll into the playoffs playing like this.

 

[My3Sons]

We have waves of needing a tremendous amount shots to get a goal. It's been a common occurrence for a very long time.

This year we can stem the tide a bit longer with stronger defense but there is an issue that can/should be fixed with a bit more depth and secondary scoring.

Cotter and Haula are also having a slew of bad luck. Their PDOs are well under 100. At some point that will start to normalize and they will start scoring again. Noesen has spent enough time with them his PDO is down as well.