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He’s staying with a Siegs type deal.
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He’s staying with a Siegs type deal.
It is so much fun to be a Devils fan these days. Not just because they‘re playing so well, but also becuase the Rags are so bad. That‘s almost twice the fun!
Really is the exact reverse of last season in that respect, the difference is that most of the Devils team is pretty young and should be good for a very long time.
I do kind of agree with that, but little guys do tend to be quicker, ala Bratt and Hughes. But maybe a tough solid little guy(which Bratt is a version of).
Better Call Sal
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Fitz and Dennehy deserve all the credit in the world for uncovering the gem of Johnny Kovacevic. Moves like that are what make good teams great in the long run. Under the radar pickups for next to nothing that make a difference while making hardly a dent against the cap.
Not a soul expected it, but what a difference he's making alongside Siegs.
Not a soul expected it, but what a difference he's making alongside Siegs.
they really complement each other well and both fit what Keefe wants the team to do. Really some great synergy.
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A 3rd and a 4th for one of the best defensive pairs in the league.
Better Call Sal
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Kovacevic Grateful to College Coach Dennehy | BLOG | New Jersey Devils
Jonathan Kovacevic was coached by Mark Dennehy in college, now the Devils Chief Scout of Amateur Scouting
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For those maybe not as familiar with Dennehy and Kovacevic's connection, he was his coach at Merrimack.
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Type of stuff that might help in contract negotiations!Kovacevic Grateful to College Coach Dennehy | BLOG | New Jersey Devils
Jonathan Kovacevic was coached by Mark Dennehy in college, now the Devils Chief Scout of Amateur Scouting
For those maybe not as familiar with Dennehy and Kovacevic's connection, he was his coach at Merrimack.
wholeheartedly agree there.
I am also hopeful that Luke signs at lower than market rate in an effort win multiple cups with his brother.
If you really need to clear space, look to move palat, Haula, and Dillon before dougie.
I also think Dougie's cerebral game will allow him to age gracefully and still be effective at 35 when his contract runs out.
Once again, we can afford to keep both. Also looks very similar to John Marino's 22-23 numbers
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I’ve been thinking this a lot lately, but I don’t think moving Haula for cap reasons this offseason is off the table. His salary is barely more than half of Palat’s and he’s only gonna have one more year left to Palat’s two.
Someone will probably say only moving out Haula barely does anything cap wise, and they may be right. I really haven’t run the numbers.
But I do think moving him is a real option this offseason.
It depends on what you think he is.
If you still view him as a 3C, it's not worth moving him out. An equivalent player like a jake evans will cost the same in UFA.
If you view him as declining more than that, then moving him out for a cheaper 4th line option gives you a lot more breathing room.
So breathing room to upgrade a backup goalie, pay a bit more to signings, or upgrade on either the bottom 6.
If you want to ship out haula for a complimentary winger (a Warren Foegele type in terms of price while complimenting Jack and Bratt well on their wing), that could absolutely make sense
This team is 91.4 mill total cap.
Arseni, Evans in for Tatar, Palat imo is an upgrade there already, but you can take it further if you want.
And then the year after that, I'd look to move Dougie in a trade for a goalie and slide Dillon to 7D behind Silayev. Then sign Nemec hopefully longer term, bridge if necessary.
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Marino ≠ Kovacevic
Two entirely different games
Two entirely different games
The point wasn't about playstyles. The point was about career years and how trusting them over continuous, sustained levels of quality play can be a mistake.
I would not be surprised if Luke is more like $9.5 on a long term deal if the cap is at $93 mil for next season.
Luke in the 9 games before Florida
Luke in the 16 games starting in Florida
- Down 1-5 in goals at 5v5
- Only 1 pt and it was a PP secondary assist
- 48.18% xG
- 1.97 xGF/60
Luke in the 16 games starting in Florida
- Up 13-5 in goals at 5v5
- 10 pts since. Only 2 are secondary assists and 8 of those pts are at 5v5
- 66.05% xG. That's 9th in the league overall and 1st among D
- 3.58 xGF/60. That's 6th in the league and 1st among D
I will be commiting voodoo magic to have luke do the silly Crosby thing where he insists on his AAV being related to his jersey number.
8.6 Mill AAV until he's 40 for luke
That NYI game was an awful showing by Pesce and Luke. They had pretty ugly plays on multiple Goals against and gave up a TON beside it
Since then. DOMINANCE.
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3rd pairing PP specialist is honestly insulting to Dougie, regardless of your feeling about his status on the team moving forward lmao
I don't know if he'll have the production to warrant that but it would be well deserved. Seider just signed for 7 years at 9.72% of the cap. He was coming off 3 straight 40+ pt years and is great defensively. I think more around 9ish mil than 9.5 makes sense as the high end.
I don’t think it’s unreasonable to be a little wary of trying to lock up Kovacevic long term or at the expense of Dougie/moving someone like Nemec, etc…
It’s also impossible to argue with his on ice impact right now. He’s one of the most important players on this team, bar none. His underlying numbers before he came to NJ were still very solid, but also came over as a 27 year old with only 143 NHL games played. That’s not a lot. I don’t really know what the best course of action really is. Siegenthaler probably left a few bucks on the table, but was willing to sacrifice that to stay here long term. That’s probably best case scenario here too.
It’s also impossible to argue with his on ice impact right now. He’s one of the most important players on this team, bar none. His underlying numbers before he came to NJ were still very solid, but also came over as a 27 year old with only 143 NHL games played. That’s not a lot. I don’t really know what the best course of action really is. Siegenthaler probably left a few bucks on the table, but was willing to sacrifice that to stay here long term. That’s probably best case scenario here too.
OT. But good for our resident Tank. He must be down 150 pounds.
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Good for him to get in shape, but personally, I find him annoying. I hear that he's close to being banned from Citi Field.
