Devils discussion (news, notes and speculation) - part II

[devilsblood]

What forwards are out there that we should be in on? Ive seen the name Trent Frederic from Boston a few times, but other than that nothing

I'm into Vatrano as a possible option. After a big goal scoring year last year, he's having a low goal scoring year so far this season. But he still get's sog's at a good rate, and he plays a physical game. Only making $3.65.

I think he'd be more about bolstering the 3rd line then the top 6, but given he's having a bit of an off year, I think he could be had on the relative cheap.

 

[Lou is God]

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You're Shero's destiny

 

[Bleedred]

I forgot Mirco Muller existed…..and I had experience with him as a Shark even before we had him.

I bet if you asked Hall if he remembered saying that about Muller he’d be like “who the f*** is that? I played with him? In New Jersey? Really?”.

 

[Oneiro]

Muller was a grenade handler. Not excusing Hall if he did say that but the fact remains. Such a bad trade.

 

[Lou is God]

I forgot Mirco Muller existed…..and I had experience with him as a Shark even before we had him.

I bet if you asked Hall if he remembered saying that about Muller he’d be like “who the f*** is that? I played with him? In New Jersey? Really?”.

When you look at our blue line for the 2017-18 season, I have no idea how we made the playoffs, even with Hall's MVP year.

And Shero going with the same unit the next year without upgrading buried him.

 

[Bleedred]

Muller was a grenade handler. Not excusing Hall if he did say that but the fact remains. Such a bad trade.

I defended the trade at the time and think that was probably just the market at the time. There were a lot of mediocre or question mark defensemen going for overpayment. Even Larsson for Hall, which may have started that type of market for a couple of years there. Not that Larsson is mediocre or was a question mark, he was just worth less than Hall.

So I understand why we gave up what we did for Muller at the time, and I still do. Muller just wasn’t any good.

I totally could see Hall not wanting to be on the ice with certain players. I think there probably was a time where he demanded that kind of pull, but surely I don’t think he’d have that kind of power on any team at this point in his career.

 

[Oneiro]

I defended the trade at the time and think that was probably just the market at the time. There were a lot of mediocre or question mark defensemen going for overpayment. Even Larsson for Hall, which may have started that type of market for a couple of years there. Not that Larsson is mediocre or was a question mark, he was just worth less than Hall.

So I understand why we gave up what we did for Muller at the time, and I still do. Muller just wasn’t any good.

I totally could see Hall not wanting to be on the ice with certain players. I think there probably was a time where he demanded that kind of pull, but surely I don’t think he’d have that kind of power on any team at this point in his career.

It's a red flag when a team like the Sharks, that was desperately trying to keep its window open, gives up on a kid that fast. I remember there was a lot of annoyance at that one here.

Nils Lundqvist isn't lighting it up. Ditto for Adam Boqvist. Insert Ty Smith joke. While it's easy to dunk on hockey ops people for a lot of dumb decisions over the years, I think the league is sometimes quick to recognize guys who don't have it.

I don't know what to make of Forsling, Stralman and those kind of outliers but my guess is there's probably some soul searching for those players and they make a conscious jump.

 

[Lou is God]

Hall is an enigma, how does someone have a MVP season like he did and then see his level of play drop off the next season and never even come close to replicating it.

Since the 2018 season he's only topped 20 goals once and 50 points twice.

Btw when I was an Admin here, someone posted along a rumor that he had a serious drug problem that was deleted because of liability concerns. Most of us believed the poster but it was still squashed. I believe the problem existed before he came here.