Devils discussion (news, notes and speculation) - offseason part II

[Lou is God]

Jack also came out with a public comment last offseason when Bratt and Meier were on the clock. Would kind of look funny if Luke were to play hardball.

I'm guessing he comes in at the exact deal as Jack.

^^^ this is a great point.

 

[Moist ReadOnly]

Only way to avoid a double digit AAV? Where you getting that from?

From Jack getting 8 before he broke out in a dead-cap and Luke has better ELC production

if he signs this summer you can get him at Jacks deal or slightly higher; past that, after he inevitably produces 50-60+ this year playing 20+ minutes a game, hes not getting less than 10

And 10 per would be fair value with a rising cap, essentially Jacks deal with inflation if it was next year. Fans thinking players take multiple millions off for a discount isnt reality; they just dont take their maximum purse

 

[Darkauron]

Signing luke to that contract will be a huge steal. We will want to sign him asap.

 

[Peter Sidorkiewicz]

I don’t want to sign Luke to a new deal right now. Give it at least 12 months.

I think under a new coaching staff, Dougie will reclaim his spot on PP1 and I think Simon Nemec is a better all round player than Luke. And I don’t want to see Luke potentially get paid more than Nemec.

I’m also a bit wary of the sophomore slump with Luke.

 

[Lou is God]

From Jack getting 8 before he broke out in a dead-cap and Luke has better ELC production

if he signs this summer you can get him at Jacks deal or slightly higher; past that, after he inevitably produces 50-60+ this year playing 20+ minutes a game, hes not getting less than 10

And 10 per would be fair value with a rising cap, essentially Jacks deal with inflation if it was next year. Fans thinking players take multiple millions off for a discount isnt reality; they just dont take their maximum purse

He's not getting $10M a year, not even close to that. For one, Fitz would never give him that much after playing hard ball with Meier and Bratt, and second like it's been mentioned, if it gets to the point of him holding out for $10M (or anything close to that), he makes his older brother look like a hypocrite for calling out teammates for not thinking of the team first.

 

[youryeah]

buckle up y'ALL

 

[Devils Trap]

LMFAO

 

[Mgd31]

Lol no they aren’t

 

[ndkjr70]

I can see Luke demanding the exact same length as Jack -- i.e. signing a contract that's $8m/year until 2030. I can also see the Devils not having much interest in that contract, as it barely buys them any FA years (1, I think? Maybe zero?) and puts a 29 year old Jack and 26 year old Luke in position to become UFAs at the same time.

 

[Devils Trap]

Necas has 1 key thing we like, speed. He is insanely fast and would make our top 6 so f***ing fast

 

[ndkjr70]

buckle up y'ALL

certified bruh moment

 

[Peter Sidorkiewicz]

Necas will be Zacha 2.0 with NJ. He’ll flash potential but disappoint often

 

[Zacha37]

I think he would fit extremely well in the top 6. We must be the team that offered a first round pick (Lebrun said it was separate from the Buffalo report)

 

[Ripshot 43]

If the 10th overall is in play for a forward, it better be for one that brings something different to our group.

 

[Forge]

Biggest question I would have on necas is how we fit it financially. 7+ long term is steep

 

[Mgd31]

We have no room for Necas. We might as well say goodbye to Mercer.

 

[Moist ReadOnly]

He's not getting $10M a year, not even close to that. For one, Fitz would never give him that much after playing hard ball with Meier and Bratt, and second like it's been mentioned, if it gets to the point of him holding out for $10M (or anything close to that), he makes his older brother look like a hypocrite for calling out teammates for not thinking of the team first.

The fact that you include his brother and 'being a hypocrite' shows me youre basing this entirely off your feelings and not at all based on precedent involving actually-signed contracts

Yes, Im sure a top-5 pick defenseman about to produce 100+ points in his first two seasons is going to take a major discount because his brother did after producing poorly when the cap didn't rise for four years lmfao

Jack yelling at his own brother for doing whats best for him...

 

[R8Devs]

I think he would fit extremely well in the top 6. We must be the team that offered a first round pick (Lebrun said it was separate from the Buffalo report)

lol Carolina leaking that out so Buffalo ups their offer so that they don't have to trade him in division

We have no room for Necas. We might as well say goodbye to Mercer.

Meier-HIschier-Mercer
Bratt-Hughes-Necas
Palat-Haula-Holtz
4th Line

There's space but I'd be surprised if it happened, would just have to bridge Mercer probably

 

[Lou is God]

The fact that you include his brother and 'being a hypocrite' shows me youre basing this entirely off your feelings and not at all based on precedent involving actually-signed contracts

Yes, Im sure a top-5 pick defenseman about to produce 100+ points in his first two seasons is going to take a major discount because his brother did after producing poorly when the cap didn't rise for four years lmfao

Jack yelling at his own brother for doing whats best for him...

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I'm basing my opinion on the fact that both of his older brothers have signed hometown discount contracts, you're basing yours on absolutely nothing. You do you champ.

 

[Mgd31]

lol Carolina leaking that out so Buffalo ups their offer so that they don't have to trade him in division

Meier-HIschier-Mercer
Bratt-Hughes-Necas
Palat-Haula-Holtz
4th Line

There's space but I'd be surprised if it happened, would just have to bridge Mercer probably

Rather spread the wealth around so we have depth throughout the lineup

 

[Comparison Ford]

i would kill to see Bratt-Hughes-Necas together.

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

I mean Necas would score 40-45 next to Jack/Bratt, let's be serious for how good he would be for them. That being said, absolutely not for the team building aspect. Just stay at 10 and take the guy with the cheap ELC and, at the worst, will be in NJ in 25-26.

 

[Better Call Sal]

I don’t see it.

Seravalli has been wrong far more often when it’s come to us than he has been right.

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

lol Carolina leaking that out so Buffalo ups their offer so that they don't have to trade him in division

Meier-HIschier-Mercer
Bratt-Hughes-Necas
Palat-Haula-Holtz
4th Line

There's space but I'd be surprised if it happened, would just have to bridge Mercer probably

Yep, well said. Necas would be an awesome fit but it just doesn't make sense team building wise

 

[R8Devs]

Rather spread the wealth around so we have depth in the bottom 6

they could still do that by separating the top 6 a bit whenever needed. Bratt, Hughes, and Hischier could all potentially be on separate lines when needed and that's not including Meier who'll still be with one of them even if the Devils do separate those three. I don't think the 4th line is much of a worry, we just saw Florida win the cup with Kyle Okposo and Steven Lorentz as mainstays there. Lazar and Bastian are competent enough 4th line guys so I think the Devils are good there.