Devils discussion (news, notes and speculation) - offseason part II

[JK3]

I mean if Walker and Pesce can play the left said I have to assume the Devils feel they are the better options for the left side then any of the LHD out there? Only reason I can come up with as to why possibly chase so many RHD.

Hamstringing anyone we have now, or intend to sign, to playing their opposite side is just batshit crazy to me. It's a terrible idea.

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

Seems high.

What guy makes more as a 33 yr old UFA then he did as a 29 yr old UFA?

That would be the total value of the contract I think. I doubt he gets more than 4 from anyone.

 

[Lou Bloom]

Not overly interested in Brendan Dillon, going to be 34 at the beginning of the season and is not much more than an average defenseman to begin with, any type of decline could lead to him being a complete dud of a signing.

 

[dgibb10]

i've wanted forbort for so long tbh.

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I'd be down with forbort as a PK specialist 7th dman around 1.5 mill, but didn't he get beat out by Wotherspoon?

 

[devilsblood]

you're a full trade behind my dude. the Wings traded Walman to the Sharks. Cap dump, apparently.

Ha, I was as well.

But when a team trades a guy in his 20's who makes $3.4 per season for "cap reasons", yeah, I might have to pass on that guy.

 

[devilsblood]

Not overly interested in Brendan Dillon, going to be 34 at the beginning of the season and is not much more than an average defenseman to begin with, any type of decline could lead to him being a complete dud of a signing.

It's all a bit hazy, but I kind of remember looking up his numbers this year and they were pretty good.

I think sometimes guys who play heavy defensive minutes lose a step, they also get heavier defensive minutes, thus their overall numbers are compounded to the downside, making the decline look worse then it is.

Kind of like Markstrom, he's such a fit, that you bring him in as a stop gap and hope he can be at least serviceable.

 

[Zippy316]

Not overly interested in Brendan Dillon, going to be 34 at the beginning of the season and is not much more than an average defenseman to begin with, any type of decline could lead to him being a complete dud of a signing.

Depends on the deal, specifically the term for me.

I could get behind a two year deal that expires when Nemec’s deal is up

 

[Forge]

 

[Comparison Ford]

i think it’s good for both parties that he is moved. not sure what his value is on his own, but assuming he could net something as part of a package

 

[Lou is God]

I dunno about this, I know Jack got a 8 year contract before the bridge, but giving Luke a 8 year this early, I don't see how that's in our favor

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[The Wumpus]

i've wanted forbort for so long tbh.

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[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

you always want to sign elite talents longterm ASAP

 

[HoliksGhost]

Are we really going to move Marino at his contract value? Or would it make more sense to play Pesce on the left side and not require another deal for a LHD?

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I hope to see Marino regain his 22/23 form, he was an absolute steal that year

 

[Forge]

I dunno about this, I know Jack got a 8 year contract before the bridge, but giving Luke a 8 year this early, I don't see how that's in our favor

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These are the deals I'm probably making every time. If you have faith in him, get it done and lock it up for 8.

I think these deals even when they go bad aren't that bad unless injury is involved.

 

[Lou is God]

you always want to sign elite talents longterm ASAP

I get that, but he's really not going nowhere and this would tie up big time cap space.

If we didn't have Jack, then yeah long term.

 

[Devs3cups]

I get that, but he's really not going nowhere and this would tie up big time cap space.

If we didn't have Jack, then yeah long term.

Yes, but if you bridge him and he absolutely pops off (which is very likely), you’re looking at way more than 9~ mil AAV. I agree he’s sticking around regardless, but I’d rather pay up right now, and I’m pretty sure he’d be glad to given his brother’s choice a few years back to do the same.

 

[RSeen]

I dunno about this, I know Jack got a 8 year contract before the bridge, but giving Luke a 8 year this early, I don't see how that's in our favor

https://x.com/i/web/status/1805999263681294412

I don't think his contract will be starting with an 9. I could see $8M at the high end if we sign him now.

 

[Lou is God]

Yes, but if you bridge him and he absolutely pops off (which is very likely), you’re looking at way more than 9~ mil AAV. I agree he’s sticking around regardless, but I’d rather pay up right now, and I’m pretty sure he’d be glad to given his brother’s choice a few years back to do the same.

I don't think he's going to try to break the bank with us, Jack signed a bargain contract with us knowing it was in more our favor.

I don't think the Hughes boys were raised to be money hungry. I could be wrong though.

 

[Devs3cups]

I don't think he's going to try to break the bank with us, Jack signed a bargain contract with us knowing it was in more our favor.

I don't think the Hughes boys were raised to be money hungry. I could be wrong though.

I don’t disagree, but I don’t think around 9 would be him being money hungry, especially with the cap going up.

 

[devilsblood]

I don't think he's going to try to break the bank with us, Jack signed a bargain contract with us knowing it was in more our favor.

I don't think the Hughes boys were raised to be money hungry. I could be wrong though.

Jack also came out with a public comment last offseason when Bratt and Meier were on the clock. Would kind of look funny if Luke were to play hardball.

I'm guessing he comes in at the exact deal as Jack.

 

[My3Sons]

I don’t disagree, but I don’t think around 9 would be him being money hungry, especially with the cap going up.

It’s probably less about him and more about his agents.

 

[Moist ReadOnly]

I don't think he's going to try to break the bank with us, Jack signed a bargain contract with us knowing it was in more our favor.

I don't think the Hughes boys were raised to be money hungry. I could be wrong though.

Its one thing to not ask for the maximum but hes not going to ask for less than we would now if he has an incredible season

Signing him right now, similar to Jack, is the only way to avoid a double-digit AAV

 

[TrufleShufle]

5x7 for Luke, Jack and Luke hold this team by the balls at the end of the 28-29 season.

 

[Lou is God]

Its one thing to not ask for the maximum but hes not going to ask for less than we would now if he has an incredible season

Signing him right now, similar to Jack, is the only way to avoid a double-digit AAV

Only way to avoid a double digit AAV? Where you getting that from?

 

[Emperoreddy]

You buy as many UFA years as you can