Devils discussion (news, notes and speculation) - offseason edition

[Satans Hockey]

Yes, but for a large portion of that time the IIHF didn’t use a playoff format. They did win silver in 1950, but that was their last top 2 finish (not counting the 1960 and 1980 Olympics, which were technically also world championships). And up until the 70’s (when Canada boycotted) pros were banned.

In modern times though the US has never prioritized this tournament. They usually bring the youngest roster. Even this roster has I think only has 2 players from the 4 nations (Swayman and Werenski, and Swayman was the 3rd goalie). Of course USA Hockey has progressed where a full B team can compete.

It's weird but they didn't win silver though in 1950 cause of the format...

"While the U.S. team technically placed second, Switzerland as the European Champion received the Silver Medal. The U.S. team received the Bronze medal for their second-place finish."

 

[Cheddabombs]

Yes, only time they ever won the gold was 1933.

Ain't no way. Who does the US send to this tournament, peewee players?

 

[jkrdevil]

Ain't no way. Who does the US send to this tournament, peewee players?

Historically not far off. It’s usually a bunch of 4th liners from non-playoff teams and a few high end college prospects. USA Hockey has usually used it as a development tournament as most of the top players (if they can go) pass.

 

[Satans Hockey]

Ain't no way. Who does the US send to this tournament, peewee players?

Historically not far off. It’s usually a bunch of 4th liners from non-playoff teams and a few high end college prospects. USA Hockey has usually used it as a development tournament as most of the top players (if they can go) pass.

They have been sending pretty good teams for awhile now, they usually play well in the group stage and just bomb out in the knockout round.

 

[Satans Hockey]

Switzerland up 3-0 in the 1st, going to be a really tough game tomorrow.

I looked at flights for Stockholm, way too expensive, under $400 I would have gotten on a plane today lol

 

[JrFischer54]

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I like the look of something like this

i mean is that really going to move the needle offensively? i mean anything will be better then what we had last year in the bottom 6 but you can't have mercer top line and you definitely can't have a rookie from euro top 6.

 

[JrFischer54]

Switzerland up 3-0 in the 1st, going to be a really tough game tomorrow.

I looked at flights for Stockholm, way too expensive, under $400 I would have gotten on a plane today lol

man that would've been cool to do younger never thought about just getting up and going like that for a game. screw the price if you are able to get away to go then go!

 

[Satans Hockey]

man that would've been cool to do younger never thought about just getting up and going like that for a game. screw the price if you are able to get away to go then go!

It's like 1.5k, I just can't justify it, especially cause my luck Timo and Siegs would end up scoring hat tricks lol

 

[HersheyBob27]

Casey is my last player on the list of our young D core(after Luke, Nemec and Sylayev). I like him a lot but I would start the trading negotiations from him. I understand the level of his potential but we already have Luke and its look like we will be in bidding wars for Quinn. May be we should use Casey years on ELC, raise his value and than trading him. Or just see how it will go. Sometimes you need less to find right players. With Quinn on the track there are not a lot of cap space now, not a lot of cap space in the future for one more big player. I would like to find guys who stuck on a good team, needs to change of scenario. We dont need to trade Casey for a guy like Turcotte if they really want something like Kovacevic/Dillion/Hamilton from us.

I would trade Silayev for a guy like Larkin. But I dont think Yzerman will trade Larkin at all.

Zero chance on Larkin trade. Detroit is apparently marner’s new team

 

[Jersey Fan 12]

Nico still missing for Switzerland due to injury but with Siegenthaler and Meier in the lineup Switzerland is leading Denmark and looks to be headed to a finals showdown with the USA in the gold medal game.

In watching these games, I realize teams rarely pursue RFA's but would love to see New Jersey find a way to make an offer to Ottawa 's Shane Pinto.

 

[NJDevs26]

Ain't no way. Who does the US send to this tournament, peewee players?

I'm pretty sure Stephen Gionta was on the team one year lmao, so draw your own conclusions...

Rochester’s Stephen Gionta Named to Team USA | NY Hockey Online

www.nyhockeyonline.com

Yep I was right...don't ask me how I remembered that, I'm no Bleed

 

[njdevils1982]

Stan Fischler was 2 years old the last time the US made the finals!

or this for perspective....the ny americans and montreal maroons still existed and the the wings were still named the falcons when he was born

 

[Satans Hockey]

I'm pretty sure Stephen Gionta was on the team one year lmao, so draw your own conclusions...

Rochester’s Stephen Gionta Named to Team USA | NY Hockey Online

www.nyhockeyonline.com

Yep I was right...don't ask me how I remembered that, I'm no Bleed

That was also 12 years ago, they have been sending much better rosters lately. Last year's was good too, they just crashed out in the knockout round...

2024 U.S. Men's National Team Roster

teamusa.usahockey.com

 

[Satans Hockey]

 

[The 29th Pick]

man even the announcers sound like old timey ones that you would hear calling baseball games from the 30s

Yeah, and saying a fight with Steve Thomas was a real heavy-weight brawl lol 5'11'' 185 lbs ...SMH !!!!

 

[woody footbreaker]

man even the announcers sound like old timey ones that you would hear calling baseball games from the 30s

thats young Jim Jackson whos still the current play-by-play guy for the flyers ...

also, on the few goals scored here someone gets his first NHL goal against us, sounds to familiar lol

 

[woody footbreaker]

Someone slap Fitz

because of @My3Sons worries about his 3 sons and therefore him strictly being against inappropriate and childish comments, i am unable to comment on this suggestion for Fitz

 

[Guadana]

Zero chance on Larkin trade. Detroit is apparently marner’s new team

I do think they will trying hard in the bidding wars for him.

 

[Bad Goalie]

there is really no shot you would get Quinn without including at LEAST one of Silayev/Nemec

now, you can say you don't want to do that, and that is fine I guess, but yeah.

A poster on the Canucks site proposed Silayev, Nemec, 2026 1st RD pick, a NJ cap hit player (Hamilton or Palat) to Vancouver

To Devils Hughes, Blueger or Sherwood, Cap hit $$$ for the Cap hit player they accepted in the trade. Not the greatest deal I've seen but it brings in what would without question the best player on the Devils roster and Dougie's $9Mil.

W/C Sherwood (30) put up 19/21/40 in 78GP for Vancouver this season.

C Blueger (30 yrs old/6'0"/185) has been a bottom 6 Canuck for the past 2 seasons avg 27 Pts/season (8/18/26 82GP).
Both are signed for next season. Blueger $1.8Mil - Sherwood $1.5 Mil

I'd take back Sherwood, but lobby for both of them. Dougie's $9 mil off the books would allow NJ to sign A top 6 wing. Not resigning Tatar $1.8Mil, Lazar ($1Mil, Bastian ($1.350Mil), Dowling ($775K) allots $4.950Mil (call it $5Mil) for a #3 C. That would give NJ 12 signed forwards with Palat, Haula, and MacDermid still on the roster and available to try to make hay with.

Sprong, Glass, and Foote are RFAs. Glass made $2.5Mil. Sprong made $975K and Foote $825K or a total of $1.8Mil. That provides Glass with a raise and likely still leaves some left over. All you have to do for Sprong and Foote is not offer them a contract.

Now, NJ decides whom of Palat, Haula, and MacDermid can be eliminated to create a 14 man roster.

Fitz could opt to include his Vancouver add in the Trade for Hughes in another deal and keep Sprong or whomever. He's in charge and has the pieces to move around the board.

Pure speculation on my part, butr it would appear that deal could actually work out depending upon Dougie's decision of whether or not Vancouver is acceptable. If not, Haula and Palat add up to basically the same amount. Both, in spite of all their warts, are a better duo than Blueger and Sherwood.

I wouldn't want to be be in Fitz's shoes as the Hughes thing will hang over him for a max of 2 seasons if he just sits still.

 

[Emperoreddy]

I really dont feel comfortable trading both our top D prospects in a Quinn deal when we can very realistically wait it out and pay less in a year or nothing on two years

It isnt a question of Quinn's worth because he obviously is worth a huge package, but its a leverage argument.

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

 

[PKs Broken Stick]

EJ says one team is willing to give Bennett $10 million so he isnt coming here unless he does us a favor

What if the devils are that 1 team? Did he say who it was

 

[NJDevils17]

Bennett at $10M is so much worse the Palat deal. That would be insane by anyone, and I sure hope it’s not us

 

[Lou is God]

What if the devils are that 1 team? Did he say who it was

Say what you want about Fitz but he's been vigilant in keeping AAV's down, he fought tooth and nail with Bratt to keep his under $8M. I doubt it's us.

 

[MadDevil]

What if the devils are that 1 team? Did he say who it was

I'm kinda hoping it's Toronto. It would be hilarious to see them let Marner walk, give Bennett a big chunk of that cap money, and then have the Leafs lose in the first or second round again.