Devils discussion (news, notes and speculation) - draft and FA edition

[MadDevil]

How is Fitz still the GM? We couldn't match Seattles offer?!!?!? How do we not talk to Dallas knowing their situation. NO brainer after moving Haula.

Because he might be looking to spend the money he's saving by trading Haula on a center, which is probably a bigger need than a $4.5 million winger right now?

 

[devilsblood]

I like Glass, I hope we sign him but “legit one of the best defensive centers in the league “? This cannot be a basis for a serious discussion.

 

[RSeen]

I like Glass, I hope we sign him but “legit one of the best defensive centers in the league “? This cannot be a basis for a serious discussion.

Seems like a lot of these 4th liners have strong defensive numbers in these models then some of these people just cite those models outputs as being definitive evidence for actual performance.

 

[UncleJunior]

For conversations sake, do you think there's any relationship between signing Glass and Sprong? If They both sign, which I would assume both would be really cheap, would you think that Fitz would be willing to spend up elsewhere?

 

[Forge]

Doesn't mean he won't be back, obviously

 

[Edmonton East]

Seems like a lot of these 4th liners have strong defensive numbers in these models then some of these people just cite those models outputs as being definitive evidence for actual performance.

Bingo. There are dozens of players with similar super-duper highly advanced chart scores / profiles that are out of the NHL already in their 20s. But those folks won't tell ya that because ignorance is bliss.

 

[Devils Trap]

For conversations sake, do you think there's any relationship between signing Glass and Sprong? If They both sign, which I would assume both would be really cheap, would you think that Fitz would be willing to spend up elsewhere?

I hope we bring back Sprong. Seems like such a no brainer

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

Doesn't mean he won't be back, obviously

Interesting

 

[Edmonton East]

Doesn't mean he won't be back, obviously

GASP, but wait! I was assured he was a capable 3C and was worth qualifying for the Devs! Of course in reality, the most C needy team in the league isn't even gonna qualify him. I rest my case.

 

[Devils Trap]

GASP, but wait! I was assured he was a capable 3C and was worth qualifying for the Devs! Of course in reality, the most C needy team in the league isn't even gonna qualify him. I rest my case.

The most needy C team in the league isnt us at all LMFAO

 

[BostonDevil]

GASP, but wait! I was assured he was a capable 3C and was worth qualifying for the Devs! Of course in reality, the most C needy team in the league isn't even gonna qualify him. I rest my case.

Bruins would like to have a word with you

 

[UncleJunior]

I hope we bring back Sprong. Seems like such a no brainer

I do too, I would like both back, two quality cap savings bottom six guys. Gives us more of an opportunity to sign a better top 6 guy.

 

[Billdo]

I mean they could sign him a a cheaper deal than the QO, correct? If they don't this makes the move for him and Dumoulin even more shitty when you consider the cost. Sure Stillman sucks balls and Graham is probably going to be nothing but he was just drafted and we gave up a third as well.

 

[Emperoreddy]

GASP, but wait! I was assured he was a capable 3C and was worth qualifying for the Devs! Of course in reality, the most C needy team in the league isn't even gonna qualify him. I rest my case.

Making stuff up again. Please just root for another team because you obviously hate this one and everyone who plays on it

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

The Devils could have no centers (which they literally don't right now) behind Jack/Nico and they still wouldn't be the most needy team in the league behind, people are oblivious to the rest of the league when they post the woe is me bullshit

 

[Triumph]

GASP, but wait! I was assured he was a capable 3C and was worth qualifying for the Devs! Of course in reality, the most C needy team in the league isn't even gonna qualify him. I rest my case.

You're just completely blinkered. The Devils have not qualified a lot of 'bottom 6' players over the years, including both McLeod and Bastian twice. I just told you today they weren't going to qualify him.

This means nothing at all about whether or not Glass will be in a Devils' uniform in October.

 

[Emperoreddy]

Not thinking Jack is a center pretty much disqualifies you from rational hockey discussions.

 

[MasterofGrond]

GASP, but wait! I was assured he was a capable 3C and was worth qualifying for the Devs! Of course in reality, the most C needy team in the league isn't even gonna qualify him. I rest my case.

There’s a classic meme, that I won’t post here because it uses some, shall we say, archaic and uncouth terminology.

But “I was only pretending to be an idiot” isn’t going to end up being quite the defense you think it is.

 

[My3Sons]

There’s a classic meme, that I won’t post here because it uses some, shall we say, archaic and uncouth terminology.

But “I was only pretending to be an idiot” isn’t going to end up being quite the defense you think it is.

What are you taking about? I’ve been getting away with that for years.

 

[Guadana]

Bingo. There are dozens of players with similar super-duper highly advanced chart scores / profiles that are out of the NHL already in their 20s. But those folks won't tell ya that because ignorance is bliss.

Huingo.
Ice time 5 on 5 + faceoffs turn into SF% and xGF%
Ducks Lundestrom sf 43% gf40%
Bruins Beecher 44/45 Kastelic 45/40
Buf Krebs 48/46
Car Drury and Jost have 51+ and 54+ but both players were last/near last in center's team charts, Glass was on top.
CBJ Kuraly 48/48
Clg Rooney 48/44
Chi Kaurashev 44/41
Col Drury 54/50 Kelly 51/50 both are 4th/5th in categories
Dal Steel 49/50 Blackwell 50/51
Det Rasmussen 46/48
Edm Janmark 48/46 Ryan 50/47
Flo Boqvist 49/50
I don't need to post it more. All of them don't have not as good numbers as Glass aside Canes, all of them are 3rd or 4th or lower centers on charts with their numbers. Not near the best on team charts as Glass.

Glass was good as Pitts center as Devils center. And even saved his on ice clean impact even after the injury.
And there is s real chance he will sign for less.

Seems like a lot of these 4th liners have strong defensive numbers in these models then some of these people just cite those models outputs as being definitive evidence for actual performance.

Like we see - no.

 

[theoptimist]

I’d be happy with Sean Kuraly and Connor Brown. Feel like Connor Brown is the quintessential Cane. Vomit.

 

[theoptimist]

Huingo.
Ice time 5 on 5 + faceoffs turn into SF% and xGF%
Ducks Lundestrom sf 43% gf40%
Bruins Beecher 44/45 Kastelic 45/40
Buf Krebs 48/46
Car Drury and Jost have 51+ and 54+ but both players were last/near last in center's team charts, Glass was on top.
CBJ Kuraly 48/48
Clg Rooney 48/44
Chi Kaurashev 44/41
Col Drury 54/50 Kelly 51/50 both are 4th/5th in categories
Dal Steel 49/50 Blackwell 50/51
Det Rasmussen 46/48
Edm Janmark 48/46 Ryan 50/47
Flo Boqvist 49/50
I don't need to post it more. All of them don't have not as good numbers as Glass aside Canes, all of them are 3rd or 4th or lower centers on charts with their numbers. Not near the best on team charts as Glass.

Glass was good as Pitts center as Devils center. And even saved his on ice clean impact even after the injury.



Like we see - no.

My favorite stat is Games Played. Glass has never played a full season. He’s a $1.5M player and 4C. I don’t mind it , but would prefer a guy who’s physical, can win faceoffs, and cover 3C occasionally. He’s marginally better than Tomas Nosek.

 

[Better Call Sal]

Again, to reiterate what has already been noted, this doesn’t mean he won’t be a Devil next year. It means they won’t sign him for his qualifying offer, which almost everyone here noted was higher than his value as a player. We’ve done this before and brought players back for less, McLeod and Bastian in particular.

This shouldn’t come as a surprise.

 

[Triumph]

Again, to reiterate what has already been noted, this doesn’t mean he won’t be a Devil next year. It means they won’t sign him for his qualifying offer, which almost everyone here noted was higher than his value as a player. We’ve done this before and brought players back for less, McLeod and Bastian in particular.

This shouldn’t come as a surprise.

The odd thing is it being announced by Friedman now, which implies to me that the agent isn't happy with New Jersey's offers and Glass might walk, or even that there are no offers at all and the Devils weren't happy with Glass's play and have no interest in him. There's going to be 20 other unqualified RFAs who dressed regularly, I'm not sure why Glass merits a mention here.

 

[Better Call Sal]

The odd thing is it being announced by Friedman now, which implies to me that the agent isn't happy with New Jersey's offers and Glass might walk, or even that there are no offers at all and the Devils weren't happy with Glass's play and have no interest in him. There's going to be 20 other unqualified RFAs who dressed regularly, I'm not sure why Glass merits a mention here.

It’s an odd time for it to be dropped, I agree, but I suppose it could be a way for the agent to gauge the interest level across the league if it’s out there early enough.

We’ll see how it plays out, but I’m certainly not surprised at all about passing on the qualifying offer salary.