GDT: Devils @ Canucks - 10:00 PM - MSG

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jkrdevil

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I don't even wanna hear this as rationalization for why he's starting. I mean from Ruff or defenders of this move, not from you.

HIS LAST f***ING GAME AGAINST THE CANUCKS WAS f***ING ALMOST THREE YEARS AGO TO THE DAY!

He hasn't played the Canucks since he's been really bad because we didn't play the Canucks in 20-21 and he wasn't dressed for either game against the Canucks in 2021-2022.

This guy needs to be extinguished from the organization like a f***ing forest fire at this point.

Best case is he has a good game (because BAD goalies have GOOD games all the f***ing time!), but the worst case is he'll get a longer leash because of it.

I know we can't play one goalie every game, but it's too soon for this. Too soon to waste a random start in a non back to back game.
It should be about managing the schedule, IMO. You win tonight even if you lose all three games against Calgary/Edmonton you are still in decent shape moving forward. Out you best foot forward tonight and secure the points you “should have.” Not that tonight is a gimme anyways.

It’s kind of like managing a baseball series where the other team has a dominate ace. You don’t necessarily put your ace against him. You put your best starters against their other starters to better your odds in those games and try to win around it.
 
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I want us to go 3-0 as a massive MIDDLE-FINGER toward the Rags and Flyers (and other metro teams) for doing their annual 3-point bulls--t.
Bruins (who I will once again state my absolute hatred for) win pretty much EVERY DAMN GAME EXCEPT WHEN THEY PLAY A METRO TEAM!!!
 
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Yeah - I don't get it. The same rationalization for him playing against Washington, is why he shouldn't play tonight
I understand playing him against Washington. They were letting him play until he had a rough game. I mean, he probably wouldn't have played the next night no matter what, because it was a back to back, but he would have been back in against Colorado if he didn't have a bad game against Washington.

Once again, it seems like the organization is still trying to make Blackwood happen. They can't just let him be the backup. They can't even wait for Vitek to get STOMPED on first, they gotta go back to Blackwood in a random game out west, against a team that he's played really well against, but also hasn't played after his first two seasons in the league.

And after they turned the gas off of Lindy's seat and he's grown back a few of his ass hairs, he's gotta gamble and attempt to play chicken.
 

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Eh let Mack try and build some confidence against a weak team, I don’t hate giving him the easiest of the 3 games.
 

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I understand playing him against Washington. They were letting him play until he had a rough game. I mean, he probably wouldn't have played the next night no matter what, because it was a back to back, but he would have been back in against Colorado if he didn't have a bad game against Washington.

Once again, it seems like the organization is still trying to make Blackwood happen. They can't just let him be the backup. They can't even wait for Vitek to get STOMPED on first, they gotta go back to Blackwood in a random game out west, against a team that he's played really well against, but also hasn't played after his first two seasons in the league.

And after they turned the gas off of Lindy's seat and he's grown back a few of his ass hairs, he's gotta gamble and attempt to play chicken.
i’m not sure ‘play vanecek until he shits the bed’ is the strategy i’d use to manage the goalies
 

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I understand playing him against Washington. They were letting him play until he had a rough game. I mean, he probably wouldn't have played the next night no matter what, because it was a back to back, but he would have been back in against Colorado if he didn't have a bad game against Washington.

Once again, it seems like the organization is still trying to make Blackwood happen. They can't just let him be the backup. They can't even wait for Vitek to get STOMPED on first, they gotta go back to Blackwood in a random game out west, against a team that he's played really well against, but also hasn't played after his first two seasons in the league.

And after they turned the gas off of Lindy's seat and he's grown back a few of his ass hairs, he's gotta gamble and attempt to play chicken.
I thought the game to put Blackwood out there is to play in one of the home and home series with Calgary.

That would've made a bit more sense.
 

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I understand playing him against Washington. They were letting him play until he had a rough game. I mean, he probably wouldn't have played the next night no matter what, because it was a back to back, but he would have been back in against Colorado if he didn't have a bad game against Washington.

Once again, it seems like the organization is still trying to make Blackwood happen. They can't just let him be the backup. They can't even wait for Vitek to get STOMPED on first, they gotta go back to Blackwood in a random game out west, against a team that he's played really well against, but also hasn't played after his first two seasons in the league.

And after they turned the gas off of Lindy's seat and he's grown back a few of his ass hairs, he's gotta gamble and attempt to play chicken.
Right - Letting him play until he had a rough game. Why isn't VV afforded that luxury?

Like you said, it seems like they are trying to make Blackwood happen. Unless it's to get a few good games in (if that's possible) and unload him, I just don't get it.
 
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i’m not sure ‘play vanecek until he shits the bed’ is the strategy i’d use to manage the goalies
Well, if he don't shit the bed for a long time, of course you can throw the other goalie in. He can't play EVERY game, but it's only been 4 games and 8 nights since the last time Blackwood played.

There's guys in the league that have dressed every game and have currently sat on the bench longer than Blackwood has since they last got into a game.
 

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Playing Blackwood in one of the Calgary games would've made more sense than putting him in this game that would've been a sure win if we had Vitek in there instead.

Now Lindy has put some doubt that the Devils will be able to win at all tonight and gave a crappy team like the Canucks(who have played much better as of late) a chance to beat us.
 
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Right - Letting him play until he had a rough game. Why isn't VV afforded that luxury?

Like you said, it seems like they are trying to make Blackwood happen. Unless it's to get a few good games in (if that's possible) and unload him, I just don't get it.
The organization has given him a longer leash than anybody since Brodeur.

And Brodeur didn't even start the season opener in 13-14 (it was a back to back and he started the home opener the next night) and they blindly (IMO) gave Blackwood the opener, despite not being the better goalie in the preseason.

Now, you could justify his play over Philly as a reason to play him, as he did shut them out last year and has had some recent success against them.

He hasn't had recent success against Vancouver because he hasn't played Vancouver in the last 3 years. Which was before his poor play started.
 
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We literally just had a discussion not too long ago about how young teams tend to get complacent after winning games and getting a lot of attention but looks like that's what's happening with Ruff. Weak team, just throw Blackwood in.

Even if they win, this is a terrible decision.
 
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Playing Blackwood in one of the Calgary games would've made more sense than putting him in this game that would've been a sure win if we had Vitek in there instead.

Now Lindy has put some doubt that the Devils will be able to win at all tonight and gave a crappy team like the Canucks(who have played much better as of late) a chance to beat us.
Whoah there. Love ya, mean it, but I don't think we're quite at the point where anything can be considered a sure win and THAT'S why Vitek should be playing.
 
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We will see if history repeats itself. Blackwood is 4-0-0 in his 4 starts against Vancouver. 0.73 GAA and .972 SV%. Could be why they started him tonight.
 

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Eh let Mack try and build some confidence against a weak team, I don’t hate giving him the easiest of the 3 games.
They’ve been a weak team because Demko has been terrible. They’ve scored a bit. They have also won their last two.

This is a tough trip. Pittsburgh just got wiped out on the trip and now they are beating the Bruins. Tonight to me is the best chance to get two points and I think you should maximize you chances at that. Sacrifice Blackwood to the Oilers. They could get get good goaltending the next three games and still go 0-3.
 
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