I wouldn't always call maximizing your earnings greedy...but I sure as hell wouldn't take that risk myself!
His agent doesn’t seem ton function like that either.I think there is also an element of goodwill in the negotiations that will matter. If Meier refuses to take anything but his QO, then that cap hit will hamstring the team from making other moves to stay a contender, most prominently re-signing Bratt.
Whereas if Meier takes a longer term deal with a lower cap hit and more guaranteed money, then the team has more flexibility to build a contender with him as a core piece. It's a win-win.
That should be an easy sell as a GM to all but the most stubborn, greedy, and/or stupid players, and Meier doesn't come off that way.
If I had to negotiate with agent and winning was a major selling point...I think there is also an element of goodwill in the negotiations that will matter. If Meier refuses to take anything but his QO, then that cap hit will hamstring the team from making other moves to stay a contender, most prominently re-signing Bratt.
Whereas if Meier takes a longer term deal with a lower cap hit and more guaranteed money, then the team has more flexibility to build a contender with him as a core piece. It's a win-win.
That should be an easy sell as a GM to all but the most stubborn, greedy, and/or stupid players, and Meier doesn't come off that way.
He can also accept a QO and then sign 7-8 year with very high AAV.He can still get 10M (or more) in actual salary next year with a long term extension. It's not as if he's guaranteed to leave money on the table by rejecting his QO and signing long term.
Him signing the QO would legitimately shock me. The risk of a seriously injury is way too high to try and play with for a 1-1.5M benefit.He can also accept a QO and then sign 7-8 year with very high AAV.
Sorry but how many times have you seen players in their primes take significant hometown discounts? In the last decade, I can recall Boston (Bergeron, Marchand etc.) and Tampa (helped by low state tax), nothing else and it virtually always includes players that have spent their whole careers there. In the NHL you can get eliminated in play-offs just by being unlucky, why would you give up millions of USD? Especially for a team that you have been a member of for a week?I think there is also an element of goodwill in the negotiations that will matter. If Meier refuses to take anything but his QO, then that cap hit will hamstring the team from making other moves to stay a contender, most prominently re-signing Bratt.
Whereas if Meier takes a longer term deal with a lower cap hit and more guaranteed money, then the team has more flexibility to build a contender with him as a core piece. It's a win-win.
That should be an easy sell as a GM to all but the most stubborn, greedy, and/or stupid players, and Meier doesn't come off that way.
Sorry but how many times have you seen players in their primes take significant hometown discounts? In the last decade, I can recall Boston (Bergeron, Marchand etc.) and Tampa (helped by low state tax), nothing else and it virtually always includes players that have spent their whole careers there. In the NHL you can get eliminated in play-offs just by being unlucky, why would you give up millions of USD? Especially for a team that you have been a member of for a week?
Meier played on a very strong San Jose team and signed an RFA contract designed specifically to have a qualifying offer that gives him insanely strong negotiating position, to believe that he will not use that is just naive.
We're not even asking him to take a significant discount necessarily, because he can still make $10 M in the first year of his next deal. We just need to convince him not to saddle the team with a $10 M cap hit for his next deal, by structuring a contract that gives him long term security, in a team-friendly way.
Especially given the comparable players around the league who are signing in the $8.5-9 M range, that would seem to make sense for him too.
Yes, he has leverage, but it's been reported that he would be "reasonable" for the right contender with a long term offer. I guess we'll see what "reasonable" means to him.
Devils have leverage too, as they can eat 10m for one year and force him to stay in NJ another season without cashing in. I think something will get worked out, but I don't expect either side to pretend like the 10m qualifier is not the nuclear option on the table if the other side is being unreasonable.We're not even asking him to take a significant discount necessarily, because he can still make $10 M in the first year of his next deal. We just need to convince him not to saddle the team with a $10 M cap hit for his next deal, by structuring a contract that gives him long term security, in a team-friendly way.
Especially given the comparable players around the league who are signing in the $8.5-9 M range, that would seem to make sense for him too.
Yes, he has leverage, but it's been reported that he would be "reasonable" for the right contender with a long term offer. I guess we'll see what "reasonable" means to him.
Got this from the main board.
At about 21 minutes in Seravalli says the Canes thought Meier was the only difference maker out there and Seravalli believe the Canes offer was actually the strongest offer.
That's his opinion. Without Jarvis or Nikishin it wasn't anything to distinguish it from NJ's and the NJ offer probably had a better NHL player going back to SJ. Who was Carolina giving up off its roster, Noesen?
That's his opinion. Without Jarvis or Nikishin it wasn't anything to distinguish it from NJ's and the NJ offer probably had a better NHL player going back to SJ. Who was Carolina giving up off its roster, Noesen?
The suspicion is it was Morrow as the main prospect for CAR. That's fine and he's a very good prospect but he's not Luke Hughes. I doubt anything else Carolina offered was different from NJ. The picks were probably equivalent and whatever B prospects Carolina may have offered were not anything better than Okhotyuk and Zetterlund who have actually played a decent number of NHL games and offer some heaviness to their game.Unless he's naming names about which prospects were involved, we have really nothing to go on. And for obvious reasons, nobody is going to leak that.
In any case, the former Whalers missed out, and they can suck on a lemon to go with their sour grapes.
Got this from the main board.
At about 21 minutes in Seravalli says the Canes thought Meier was the only difference maker out there and Seravalli believe the Canes offer was actually the strongest offer.
Maybe they were willing to move 2 1sts without any protections on the picks? But yeah, prospect value is pretty subjective.That's his opinion. Without Jarvis or Nikishin it wasn't anything to distinguish it from NJ's and the NJ offer probably had a better NHL player going back to SJ. Who was Carolina giving up off its roster, Noesen?