Confirmed with Link: Devils acquire LHD Jonas Siegenthaler (WAS) for ARZ 3rd 2021

[Nico Hischier]

there are none I don't think?

the pick is ARZ's 3rd which was conditional based on their results last year

edit- maybe not

I think you are correct. It’s Arizona’s third

 

[Blender]

there are none I don't think?

the pick is ARZ's 3rd which was conditional based on their results last year

edit- maybe not

It was conditional to be a better pick, which didn't happen.

 

[My3Sons]

Yeah but I would hope that would drive the value down a bit too. I can’t really complain too much, Devils have an excess of prospects and picks, need to start flipping some for NHL-ready assets. Just ideally you’d want to pay less given the market.

If one of our UFA defenders goes for a third, then Devils are just essentially back where they started.

That makes sense. If a team wants Murray or Kulikov for a third it’s like trading Kulikov or Murray for Siegenthaler. I doubt anyone would squawk about that.

 

[Captain3rdLine]

Yeah but I would hope that would drive the value down a bit too. I can’t really complain too much, Devils have an excess of prospects and picks, need to start flipping some for NHL-ready assets. Just ideally you’d want to pay less given the market.

If one of our UFA defenders goes for a third, then Devils are just essentially back where they started.

I think this is the value that has been driven down, sounds like he was very good on caps 3rd pair last couple years just hasn’t played much this season. He’s much younger and under team control. He also has better upside.

 

[Cheddabombs]

I like this a ton. Have been a fan of him for a while and this is a pretty low risk move so even if it doesn't pan out oh well. We have a good amount of picks and a good amount of LHD prospects, trading a pick for a young NHL dman is fine by me.

 

[Blackjack]

If anyone feels like trolling the trade board there were some caps fans that thought he was worth a lot more than that.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

I Would imagine maybe they get a similar pick for Kulikov? so basically replacing him with a similar, younger player?

 

[MartyOwns]

i know nothing about the guy...price seems relatively high but whatever

 

[Darkauron]

I like the trade. A younger LD who can play D and his friends with nico? Sign me up. Even better if we get another pick if we trade Kulikov to off set it.

 

[The Wumpus]

Please be better that the last big Swiss defender we picked up

 

[None Shall Pass]

Conditions:

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

Conditions:

but, those conditions were already not met lol they were based on ARZ winning a round and Hall re-signing I thought?

 

[Nico Hischier]

That makes sense. If a team wants Murray or Kulikov for a third it’s like trading Kulikov or Murray for Siegenthaler. I doubt anyone would squawk about that.

Yeah but if we get a third for either Murray or kulikov then that would be a lower third then the one we just traded. It’s minor but still. Hoping we get a second for one of those two

 

[NjDevsRR]

Some nice folks at the Caps forum provided me with these reviews.

uhhh. A big body "stay at home defensemen". I think he's strictly a bottom pairing guy, who can give you some PK minutes, but nothing world-breaking.

I don't think he was that good, but he can fill some minutes if a team needs them.

Tall defensive defenseman who can skate well. Not going to wow you but pretty solid and can move the puck decently IIRC.

Don’t think his potential is anything higher than a decent #4 but he always held his own as a young defenseman on a contending team.

He has the potential to be a good defensive defenseman. There's no real issues with his game other than on the offensive side. But even then he's a decent enough skater and he seems like he's fairly hockey smart.

Big, strong defensive defenseman. Very physical in front of the net and along the boards. Long reach and solid positionally. Very good shot blocker and strong on the PK.

On the flip side, he’s kind of a plodder when it comes to skating. Not very mobile and can struggle against speed. Not the best puck handler and will provide almost no offense, despite having a decent shot.

 

[Blender]

but, those conditions were already not met lol they were based on ARZ winning a round and Hall re-signing I thought?

Correct, that's a stupid technicality. Though I guess Arizona could win the cup this season and Hall could sign there.

The third-round pick in 2021 becomes a first-round selection if Arizona wins a Stanley Cup Playoff round AND Taylor Hall re-signs in Arizona. If neither condition happens, New Jersey still receives the 2021 third-round pick.

 

[Unknown Caller]

Assuming we get picks for Murray and/or Kulikov, I’m fine with this. 3rd round picks take like 4 to 5 years to maybe make an impact in the bottom half of the lineup, so I’m fine using one of the picks for a guy that can step in right away.

 

[Camille the Eel]

He’s a good defensemen from a team that had a ton of them. Not a speculative player we saw him a lot over the prior two years. Good move. Sick of prospects - this guy can help us now and next year and you know just what you are getting.

 

[Poppy Whoa Sonnet]

I Would imagine maybe they get a similar pick for Kulikov? so basically replacing him with a similar, younger player?

I'm hopeful we can get 2 2nds for Kulikov at this point based on his cap hit.

 

[The Instigator]

If anyone feels like trolling the trade board there were some caps fans that thought he was worth a lot more than that.

Please be kind to our...slower...board members.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

I'm hopeful we can get 2 2nds for Kulikov at this point based on his cap hit.

TWO 2nds?

I Don't even think we get 1.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

 

[Forge]

I'm fine with it. Doesn't seem to be a stud, but does seem to fit the type of player we can use.

 

[dls]

Like it a lot ---

 

[Poppy Whoa Sonnet]

TWO 2nds?

I Don't even think we get 1.

Maybe I've lost my sense of the market but he seems coveted.

 

[None Shall Pass]

93th lol