They don't have a chance. It's just easier procedurally to have them in the drawing and re-draw if they're selected rather than redo all of the odds and alter the entire process for a year.
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They don't have a chance. It's just easier procedurally to have them in the drawing and re-draw if they're selected rather than redo all of the odds and alter the entire process for a year.
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But what’s weird is these look like 1-off odds anyway.
The 3 and 4 picks won’t have the same lotto odds next year, I’m betting.
So since these are 1-off odds then you could just remove Arizona and evenly distribute their odds to begin with.
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Theoretically, if the Coyotes win the 1st and we win the 2nd, will they redraw both and then we could lose out on the 2nd pick?
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No because that is not how the drawing works. There is one drawing for the 1st pick and then a second drawing for the 2nd pick. So if the Coyotes win the first lottery then they will redraw the lotto wry for pick 1 before proceeding to the drawing for picks two. If the Coyotes win the second drawing then whoever won the drawing for pick 1 is set and they redraw the drawing for picks two.
They film and release the actual drawing afterwards. It follows a strict legal procedure that includes Bettman having to hold up that day’s newspaper like a hostage video to prove it occurred on that day.
But as I mentioned they are two separate drawing so that scenario cannot happen.
Because they draw a number combination that is assigned to a team. There are 1,000 different combos, so it is easier to redraw than to assign those out to other teams, which wouldn’t spread the odds evenly.
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I don’t think it’s too difficult. Arizona has 31 combinations. 2 extra combinations to everyone and 3 to Buffalo.
They already skewed the odds around with the 3 and 4 slots having the same odds so the odds are already lopsided in some way this lottery.
If I had to guess it has to do with some wording in the CBA or the draft bylaws that would have needed an exception made to remove a team but no exception was needed for a pick forfeiture.
Wow, a fellow Schmoedown fan. Or did you just find the gif while searching?
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How has it been recently? I haven't kept up much over the last few years. I saw Dan and Ben are a team now and that intrigued me
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I'm a bit behind on this season. They have a lot more matches than in previous seasons. I know the Star Wars tournament (the division that mostly got me into it) recently started again. As a wrestling fan I really like the competitors who play that side up (Rocha, Kalinowski, Bateman, etc).
The Star Wars matches are insane to me. I like to think I'm a big fan but some of the questions they have that they actually know are crazy. I know one of the matches recently (or maybe last season) I don't think either one missed a question until they got to sudden death.
This basically explains why they kept Arizona in the lottery process - because you can't just distribute the Arizona combinations equally.
The Rangers have 10 number combinations - giving them two more increases their combinations by 20%. Meanwhile, if you're adding 2 more chances to Anaheim's 117 combinations, you're increasing their combinations by just 1.7%. Any redistribution of Arizona's number combinations would throw off the originally intended odds, so the only choice is to keep them involved in the process and re-draw if their numbers come up.
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Everyone is increased by the same 0.2%, and the Sabres are increased by 0.3%. The percentage growth of chance is immaterial, the raw change in chance is what matters and that would literally be the same increase for all but 1 team and effectively the same for all teams.
There is no original intended odds in this case as the 3 and 4 spots will not have the same odds going forward. This is already a bespoke set of odds.
There are originally intended odds, even if it is unique for this one draft, that were developed had Arizona's pick not been forfeited. I suspect we'll see these same odds going forward, except for an adjustment to the #3 & #4 slots.
Even if it's only Buffalo that benefits from a redistribution of Arizona's number combinations, it still throws off the originally intended odds which is why it's still a better solution to allow Arizona to keep their number combinations and just do a re-draw if they happen to be selected.
Your solution is essentially saying "meh...close enough" - given the high stakes of this draw you need to be as accurate as possible.
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Because they were breaking rules with regard to prospect/draft workouts.
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Oofa. This kind of rings a bell in the ole memory bank. Did they do some other shady stuff as well?
Imagine that mgmt group is now out?
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they also drafted a dickface but there's no rule against that. just an embarrassment of a franchise top to bottom.
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