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there are about 1.5 forward lines that are probably going to start day 1 and Lyon is most likely our third goalie.

was fully expecting a ROUTE from tor tonight. But this is all of the players last shot at making the lineup for the dress rehearsal on saturday wiht you guys.
Thx for the update
 
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He's been fine. He's also been with largely nothing players.

Minten has been given Knies every game who is better than anyone Holmberg played with.

I'm also most concerned with how Holmberg did last season than this pre-season.
He's been meh. Really has created nothing. He also tailed off after a decent start last season.

Minten has been a puck hound with or without Knies.

Of the 2, only Minten has a realistic shot to break camp with the big club, although I am certain he will be going back to Kelowna.
 
They've been hemmed in really badly a few times against AHL level competition, but even beyond that it just looks like shit (for supposed cup contenders) on paper

We're really going to do this again this year aren't we? Start slow and have people lose their minds then find their form.

It's still pre-season. I'll be concerned if they aren't in form after 20 games.
 
There’s the old man slow and discombobulated Tavares I remember
 
The crowd is booing them.
im guessing they don’t have much goodwill built up with the fans
 
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We're really going to do this again this year aren't we? Start slow and have people lose their minds then find their form.

It's still pre-season. I'll be concerned if they aren't in form after 20 games.
They will have a new coach if they are not in form after 20 games
 
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We're really going to do this again this year aren't we? Start slow and have people lose their minds then find their form.

It's still pre-season. I'll be concerned if they aren't in form after 20 games.
Find what form. They never compete for best in the regular season, they're never competitive in the playoffs. They're just consistently top 8 in the conference.
 
He's been meh. Really has created nothing. He also tailed off after a decent start last season.

Minten has been a puck hound with or without Knies.

Of the 2, only Minten has a realistic shot to break camp with the big club, although I am certain he will be going back to Kelowna.

Agree to disagree. Minten has not done much just like Holmberg.

Minten is getting praised because he was expected to do less.

Cowan is more deserving than both.
 
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We're really going to do this again this year aren't we? Start slow and have people lose their minds then find their form.

It's still pre-season. I'll be concerned if they aren't in form after 20 games.
It's not just because of their preseason form, it's because it's a very questionable group of personnel. Rielly, Klingberg, and Liljegren all have huge question marks in the defensive end. Giordano is 40. Brodie and McCabe are the only two guys who even look reliable but there are concerns there too
 
It's not just because of their preseason form, it's because it's a very questionable group of personnel. Rielly, Klingberg, and Liljegren all have huge question marks in the defensive end. Giordano is 40. Brodie and McCabe are the only two guys who even look reliable but there are concerns there too
Rielly and Lilj dont have "huge question marks in the defensive end"
 
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