Speculation: Detroit shopping Justin Holl?

[Hamilton Bulldogs]

I feel like the wings signed Holl without watching any of his games.

 

[Detroit Knights]

I for one am shocked, Who could have predicted that the Red Wings would regret signing Justin Holl and look to trade him especially at almost twice the money he made last year?

What a shocking and unpredictable outcome.

too bad the story just isn't true lmao.

i am SHOCKED that you believe something just because someone says someone else said something that the something wasn't even in the article that someone is referencing.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

Terrible deal the second the ink was dry. Gotta attach a draft pick to entice someone to take him

Doubt you'd see a pick attached for a pure dump with nothing else included. More likely see him included in a trade and they pay a little extra for whoever they're getting.

Detroit's kinda on the edge where they have enough cap to do what they need to do in the summer (Extend Seider, extend Raymond, and hopefully extend Kane) but extra cap wouldn't hurt... And a better 2nd pairing RHD wouldn't hurt either.

 

[OVO16]

Lmao he's so garbage and soft. So glad he left

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

I feel like the wings signed Holl without watching any of his games.

More likely they did watch his games, saw how shitty the rest of Toronto's D was, and figured it was just a team thing they could fix in a new system.

Also a bit of a case where, they signed Holl to plug the RHD hole, then stumbled upon Petry at 75% retention and didn't need Holl anymore.

 

[Hammettf2b]

The Holl deal in the beginning wasn't as bad as ppl make it out to be (i still didn't like it) but it became much worse once they traded for Petry making Holl useless

 

[Suntouchable13]

At least they have the good sense to try to get rid of him. Leafs just kept him around for years.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

too bad the story just isn't true lmao.

i am SHOCKED that you believe something just because someone says someone else said something that the something wasn't even in the article that someone is referencing.

I watched nearly every game of his NHL career up until this season.

I have absolutely no problem believing the Red Wings wantto trade him

 

[deca guard]

amazing how people rate their opinion over yzermans . detroit had tons of extra cap space so cap or cash wasnt an issue . mean while had no rookies ready to come up and couldnt entice a better ufa to sign . so they signed holl to at minimum provide a right shot plus a vet dman there to help lalonde and his new staff to establish a system with vets there such as petry , chariot , holl to teach all detroits young dmen coming up over the next few years . mean while they only could have signed a lesser dman or not signed anybody and been forced to rush edvinsson up at the cost of his development

 

[MoreMogilny]

Remember when RNH whooped his ass

 

[Detroit Knights]

I watched nearly every game of his NHL career up until this season.

I have absolutely no problem believing the Red Wings wantto trade him

he plays well when he is in the game. We just have too much defenseman.

Regardless, the article from kaplan never mentions a defenseman's name and just speculates that yzerman is taking calls on his defenseman.

 

[datsyukfan]

I watched nearly every game of his NHL career up until this season.

I have absolutely no problem believing the Red Wings wantto trade him

He’s been perfectly fine this year as a bottom pair d-man. +7 this year and solid on the PK. Mattaa has just played really well since mid season

 

[JediOrderPizza]

He was ok for a while on the third pairing, but once Maatta got healthy they just shifted Ghost to RD and adios.

Also sounds like, even Ken Daniels mentioned this on a podcast if they knew they were gonna get Petry they probably wouldn't have bothered signing him. Hence why he is now the 7th.

 

[19 for president]

I mean I think Petry is available earlier in the off season, Holl isn't signed. Yzerman sort of overbought dmen this offseason but not at a horrendous level. Even if we have to eat 50% we can easily fill in his spot with an ELC so it isn't a total disaster.

It wasn't my favorite move by Yzerman but I'm not too concerned overall.

 

[RedHawkDown]

Your Tanev replacement! Holl + Wallinder + 2025 1st for Hanifin

 

[drede]

There shopping a cap dump no way he has any value with that contract

 

[dirtydanglez]

the next hronek

 

[Le Magnifique 66]

Holl for Graves

 

[datsyukfan]

Holl for Graves

No thank you from the wings

 

[Le Magnifique 66]

No thank you from the wings

Thank you for being so polite

 

[TS Quint]

Leafs should pay big to get him back. Look at the defensive numbers last year with Holl and this year without him. The Leafs have fallen apart without him.

 

[SnizzNasty88]

HA, no kidding. One of the worst players in the world and not even an NHLer imo. He was PROTECTED in the Seattle expansion draft and left noted 30+ goal sniper Jared McCann exposed no thanks to Dubas. The most pathetic disgrace to hockey and worst GM in NHL history, unequivocally.

[MOD]

 

[TS Quint]

As a leaf he felt like he could leave the zone.

Ultimately he was at his best when he played with Muzzin.

Just a career 6/7 D.

He’s a #3 on the Leafs. Maybe higher this year.

 

[Fixed to Ruin]

Remember when RNH whooped his ass

Sure do!



EDIT: Just noticed that tomorrow will be the 1 yr anniversary of that fight.

 

[Goalfield13]

What do the wings offer to take on the entire cap with no retention?