2008 was the first time Washington made the postseason with their “core”
So just like Larkin, Raymond, Ed and Seider are our main pieces with Debrincat being an additional piece? What’s the issue here?
Not sure your question. I’d reckon DeBrincat is a nice medium term piece to help get the wings to the playoffs. Solid contract, worth the late first they got for Bertuzzi? Probably if they accomplish their goal. I can’t tell from dotter and others if that’s what the wings are trying to do or not given the refusal to give an inch to anything other than Yzerman being perfect.
Washington spent a decade as a competitive team going through various trials and tribulations together, determining which pieces worked and which could use an upgrade in the postseason and with enough re-tooling and bites of the apple it came together for the one postseason. How does that speak to postseason experience being irrelevant? Most cup winners had their share of growing pains along the way.
Their "additional piece" who was part of their team since inception and became one of their core players and won the Conn Smythe ahead of all of those "Franchise players".
Are you saying Marchessault was a more important part of their team? Like take that further for me. Should they have tried to trade Eichel and re-sign Marchessault because he won the Conn Smythe?
There's a time for everything. Most of Florida's bigger moves (Bennett, Reinhart, Tkachuk) came when they were already a playoff team and trying to take another step. It should also be noted that some of their moves were pure necessity because their own drafting sucked. Their 1st rounders after Barkov (2013) and Ekblad (2014):
For their cup win, his trophy speaks for itself.
What they should try and not try is not up to me. You are talking about after they won a cup. These things doesn't have to be connected. They could have done a lot of different options, they decided one thing.
I've read your content in here I am not worried about your opinion on my credibility. Seems like you're copeing with a dissapointing season of a team that's not built properly. For exactly the reasons I pointed out. As per my first post, I think Yzerman just needs to be patient and let the d core develop. They do need to find another center that can drive play. If they have that they will be a playoff team.
Marchessesult doesnt drive a line either just like Debrincat he's a complimentary piece. A team built like Vegas can have that when they are deep down the middle and have a heavy physical team. Also when they pay him 5 million. Detroit is light up the middle, doesn't have a heavy team and pays Debrincat just under 8 million. It's not a recipe for success.
5 years in between those contract signings, they in many ways similar when it comes to production. 5 years later cap gone up and knowingly going up by quite a bit on know roughly how much it will increase now. His increase in salary isn't so much either compared to what he had.
I don’t disagree with your other points. I’m also not coping at all - you can ask other wings fans, I’m among the most critical of Yzerman in our board and I think he’s an overall below average GM. But all that’s irrelevant to this point. Alex Debrincat is objectively a play driver. End of story.
Arguing about what is a franchise player is semantics, and whether Seider is that is a subjective opinion. Let's assume you are biased here. Here's an unbiased, alledgedly not perfect list, but one that gives us a point of reference : https://www.nhl.com/news/nhl-current-players-ranked-top-20-defensemen.
The fact that you posted this list without realizing that Seider is the youngest defenseman on it is quite telling. Yes, if he takes zero steps forward in his development, we won’t compete. Hes a top 20 dman now and still years away from his prime. Why would I have any reason to believe he’ll be anything less than a franchise 1D when he gets there?
Yeah Seider and Raymond are nice young players signed to decent contracts, but in a perfect world, pending a 2nd level breakout, they're pushed down a spot each in the total team hierarchy of overall important players. Like if they had a true superstar center, that would be huge as far as sliding everyone else down to a more appropriate placement on a contending team.
That is such a fanboy take.
Playing the toughest minutes in the NHL doesn't seem help a players numbers very much.
Yes, there is more than one way to skin a cat, I just don’t see the Red Wings’ way doing it. They will need some more elite talent up front but that’s not easy to acquire.
Is a young 30+ goal scorer/65+pt guy worth a late 1st and scraps? Every single time.
