For this year maybe.
Prognosticating that Ottawa is a perennial playoff team because they are currently in a wild card spot after missing the playoffs for 7 years is pretty bold.
For this year maybe.
Prognosticating that Ottawa is a perennial playoff team because they are currently in a wild card spot after missing the playoffs for 7 years is pretty bold.
It’s not officially documented anywhere, but the rumbling that came from the Walman trade was nothing but positive from the locker room and coaching staff.
Not sure what he did to be so hated, but he somehow managed to become a cancer in the locker room. Maybe he stole Larkin’s cheerios one morning, who knows.
I liked him on the wings, thought he was fun to watch with his cheeky gritty celebration, but when I heard from an ex-wings player in the offseason who was apart of the team that somebody (who he couldn’t name) that played on the blue line really caused lockeroom issues in the midst of the playoff run, I knew right away who it was when the trade had happened.
Good for San Jose on capitalizing on the opportunity. That organization made out like bandits in that trade. Turned one times problem into gold.
Am I concerned about the move the GM made to keep the locker room and coaching staff happy? No not at all. It was a hard decision, but he was traded for futures for a reason. That reason is to remind the locker room that no one man is greater than the team.
Also, I don’t think Detroit would have ever been able to receive a first rounder for Walman in the series of any events anyways. So at the end of the day even neglecting the fact that he was potentially a big problem in the room, it’s not as bad as some make it out to be.
The Hronek thing has been beat to death but it seems like nobody believes us. Look, I’m sure my fellow wings fans will tell you I’m one of the Yzerman doomers on the wings board and I’m not a fan of his work overall. But the Hronek trade was seen as fantastic at the time it happened by pretty much every wings fan for a reason - he was not at all the player he’s been in Vancouver in Detroit. Could he have become that? We don’t know. Maybe it took playing with a Hart level defenseman in Hughes to unlock that potential in him, who knows. But if Yzerman gave 7M to the guy Hronek was in Detroit, I would have been furious. We are very happy with the 1st and the fact that it turned into ASP who is looking phenomenal is a gigantic cherry on top.
I don’t like Yzermans trades and generally think he’s extremely overhyped, but it’s possible for a trade to be a win-win. This was one of those trades. I’m glad Hronek is doing well in Vancouver and I don’t want him back.
Go look for yourself, the vast majority of people saying they don’t get why Canucks did this and that it seems expensive: Confirmed Trade: - [VAN/DET] Filip Hronek and 2023 4th round pick for 2023 NYI 1st round pick and 2023 2nd round pick
I don’t like Yzermans trades and generally think he’s extremely overhyped, but it’s possible for a trade to be a win-win. This was one of those trades. I’m glad Hronek is doing well in Vancouver and I don’t want him back.
Go look for yourself, the vast majority of people saying they don’t get why Canucks did this and that it seems expensive: Confirmed Trade: - [VAN/DET] Filip Hronek and 2023 4th round pick for 2023 NYI 1st round pick and 2023 2nd round pick
Its weird arguing for the Senators with a Sens fan but I'll bite :p
They have to replace Giroux, they have to add a top 4 dman, they have to add a back-up goalie. They'll have just over 20 million to do that.
Im not too worried about the Sens moving forward. I don't think ceiling is too high due to their RD situation + lack of secondary scoring but I think aggressive free agency will get them to be a decade of early playoff exits.
every team does favors? this is common practice in professional sports? Can you give me some other recent NHL examples?
A basic one is the concept of deals with future considerations aspects. Most are left unfulfilled forever.
Every change of scenery trade pretty much, every time a player is signed for a 1d or whatever "retire" contract so they can retire from a specific team. Players being released from contracts so they can pursue a contract somewhere else because they couldn't meet expectation?
Whoever the 2nd wild card team is/ say new jersey has a down year lots of unforseen things may happen.
The sens have 18.44 mill in cap space to fill 10 spots next year.
4 forwards, 2 dmen, 1 G, 3 scratches.
So no examples of anything similar. Remember, a 2nd rounder was included. Then the player was flipped for a first rounder. Grier got a 1st rounder, a 3/4 season of Walman and a 2nd rounder for absolutely nothing. That is spectacular GMing for a rebuilding team. Giving away players with value (whether you like him or not, he just netted a 1st round pick and clearly had value) and picks is the exact opposite of that.
I’ve felt for the majority of this thread that people are blowing things way out of proportion…but I think as a neutral watching them tonight…things are starting to feel more than a bit stinky.
There’s young talent for sure and prospects on the way but something about the overall construct to this team and lack of leadership and grit and lack of ability to “turn the corner” is giving me Sabres situation vibes, despite the talent of the youth on paper. What you don’t want is to bring all these young guys up in a poor environment…Edvinsson for example…pretty bad tonight. Could just be an off game for a really talented young player who for the most part has been very good this year, but when poor decision making and effort start to become systemic, it’s a worrying situation.
I think the core is still very promising - but at some point Yzerman has to stop with the multi-year deals to middling vets and the assumption that the “youth wave” is just going to win the day eventually, and do something bolder. Otherwise this franchise is going to remain stuck, I fear.
It’s going to be a make-or-break summer in Detroit IMO.
There’s young talent for sure and prospects on the way but something about the overall construct to this team and lack of leadership and grit and lack of ability to “turn the corner” is giving me Sabres situation vibes, despite the talent of the youth on paper. What you don’t want is to bring all these young guys up in a poor environment…Edvinsson for example…pretty bad tonight. Could just be an off game for a really talented young player who for the most part has been very good this year, but when poor decision making and effort start to become systemic, it’s a worrying situation.
I think the core is still very promising - but at some point Yzerman has to stop with the multi-year deals to middling vets and the assumption that the “youth wave” is just going to win the day eventually, and do something bolder. Otherwise this franchise is going to remain stuck, I fear.
It’s going to be a make-or-break summer in Detroit IMO.
I still think Wing's can make it. But if your argument is that the Koala is the key and how great they've been and he should have been hired earlier.. well, he's also coached them to this record in the last 10.
I didn't think it was possible to be worse than my Oilers since the 4 nations ended:
The Red WIngs have not had anyone designated as head of pro scouting since Mark Howe retired in 2021.
