I think Hronek gone is a good thing. But the d this season could have been
Ed seider
Walman Hronek
no Petry, no holl. No Asp too.
It's not out of the realm of reason, but again many people believe there is not enough substance to the Wings rebuild to matter in the future. In that case, what good does Hronek elevating them to a playoff team really accomplish? Still not a true contender, slightly increasing draft position while still attempting to accrue assets, hampering cap maneuverability (although Yzerman's FA spending's have accomplished that all on their own). I would still argue the move reset, not setback, the timeline. For those that do not watch the Wings much, there was talk from at least Mickey Redmond, that the arrival of Seider and Raymond had moved the rebuild up a couple years. Perhaps management had hoped that to be the case as well.
Could have. Sure. But Yzerman wasn't going to pay Hronek $7M+ and he paid to get rid of Walman. So... not really a could have, no.
If you are referring to my post, then you are taking it out of context. I said "start" to make trades and going hard in the UFA market.
I never said that is when they start winning cups... it's GO time to start making appropriate moves to fill holes to try to become a perennial PO team.
Why is year 6 not “go time” to be a perrenial playoff team?
For the record, I did not expect Detroit to be in Cup contention by now. But in the NHL, literally half the teams make the playoffs. It’s not special.
That should be the absolute bare minimum requirement by the end of year 6, regardless how how bad things were when he got here.
One must rise up to have a downfall.
This is more like Charlie Brown trying to kick Lucy’s football.
This is more like Charlie Brown trying to kick Lucy’s football.
I think Yzerman is locking down the stars to bargain contracts. I think Raymond and Seider's contract will prove to be some of the best in the league. I think the goal is to also sign Edvinsson to a long term bargain contract. Through good contracts and locking up the core, that's how you build a contender. You will attract big name UFA when the time comes. The time isn't now.
You said it yourself. "I did not expect Detroit to be in Cup contention by now"
Then proceeded to say "playoffs are not special".
That tells me you just want the team to make the post season because A). you are impatient, or B). ego.
Yzerman probably doesn't want to make the playoffs because it gives him better draft positions by missing. He's building for a prosperous future, not for gimmick one-and-done come April.
That being said, Wings are already competing to make the playoffs. Missed by 0 points last season, have been in and out of the wildcard since a coaching change, when they looked like they were drafting top5.
I think it is pretty spectacular what they've done this season. Each season they are getting incrementally better. They are improving in front of our eyes. You just refuse to see it, because you want to make the playoffs, despite saying "playoffs aren't special". You need little man syndrome bragging rights.
I'm a fan of how good Yzerman is doing at rebuilding this team. This team is finally fun an exciting to watch, and the kids are doing amazing things. More kids are coming. The future is bright!
The wings will make the playoffs next year and I love the way the team is shaping up. Only question is if they can legitimately compete for a cup before Larkin gets broken.
We should be getting a lot of answers on Cossa and ASP within the next calendar year. And if none of them are making a positive NHL impact by 26-27 at the latest they're probably not the answers we want.
In the end I think it always comes back to what your view is of the talent they have upcoming. ASP and Buchelnikov are breaking records. Plante had a fantastic freshman season in the NCAA, Danielson is heating up in the AHL, Kasper is one of the NHLs best rookies the last few months, Edvinsson is already a monster, Cossa and Augustine are two the best goalie prospects in the world.. the idea that there isn't lots of help coming doesn't vibe with me. Of course, you are free to believe differently.
The problem with keeping Hronek is that it's not about 1 season. He's on an 8 year deal at a 7+ mil cap hit. They needed to decide if he was a core part of their rebuild or not.
It's never been harder to make the playoffs in the NHL. It's arguably one of the most difficult leagues in the sporting world to make the post-season in, between the amount of teams, the low % of teams that make it, and the inforced parity of the salary cap and draft lottery.
Saying it's the bare minimum by "year 6" is just a completely made up thing. You can believe that if you want to, but lots of teams fail that test, all the time. Most of the best teams in the league today have failed that minimum requirement on the way towards becoming a great team.
funny how 2 to 4 points probably will decide for most people if this season was a massive failure or hige success.
myself as a fan, obv hope they make it but will b happy if they play hard till the end.
kasper looks like another SY homerun, future is bright.
myself as a fan, obv hope they make it but will b happy if they play hard till the end.
kasper looks like another SY homerun, future is bright.
Yup. Wings rookies combine are top 4 or 5 in the entire NHL in scoring among rookies. Kasper is a big part of that. Soderblom has also contributed in short time on the team so far.
Yzerman's drafting is looking pretty damn good.
I didn't think they would make the playoffs with the scoring lost in the offseason. But seeing Kasper, Edvinsson, Johansson, and Soderblom contributing is all I could really ask for of a team that will live or die on it's drafting.
Toss in Raymond being a point per game, DeBrincat looking like he is finally comfortable and Seider being the rock as usual.
