Detroit Redwings Downfall

[TheDoldrums]

Hired in April 2019
Traded Hronek for Asp in March 2023 (and replaced him with Petry)
Drafted 2 very promising goalies along the way
Ready to roll in 2028 (5 years after trading Hronek)

Does appear to be the plan.

jesus christ

 

[theVladiator]

I have to ask.. do you think ASP will supplant Seider and move Seider to 2RD? I'm a big Seider fan and don't see anyone taking his 1RD minutes any season soon... only about 4 or 5 guys I'd put ahead of him in the entire NHL on D.

I think we'll just have to see when we get there.

He replaced Hronek with Petry. That is a loss.

Indeed, as long as we are talking about 23/24 season. Thinking longer term, in my opinion the move was prompted by realization that we won't be able to keep Hronek long term, so the downgrade was essentially forced by circumstances. On the other hand, the Wings have improved their record in 23/24 despite this downgrade, so the loss was not at all irreplaceable. Hronek was replaced by a committee, as is often the case.

I just don't like the 'we drafted a guy that will replace him in 5 years' argument. That is some 3D chess if Stevie Y know on March 1st, 2023 that he'd get a guy to replace Hronek in 2027.

Me neither, it's hindsight rationalization. Like I said, SY did reasonably well with the trade given the circumstances, but it's the DRW amateur scouting that made a big difference here. And, of course, whoever hired them should get a fair bit of credit. So, maybe not in a way that 3D chess rationale goes, but SY deserves a lot of credit here.

 

[eojsmada]

I think we'll just have to see when we get there.



Indeed, as long as we are talking about 23/24 season. Thinking longer term, in my opinion the move was prompted by realization that we won't be able to keep Hronek long term, so the downgrade was essentially forced by circumstances. On the other hand, the Wings have improved their record in 23/24 despite this downgrade, so the loss was not at all irreplaceable. Hronek was replaced by a committee, as is often the case.



Me neither, it's hindsight rationalization. Like I said, SY did reasonably well with the trade given the circumstances, but it's the DRW amateur scouting that made a big difference here. And, of course, whoever hired them should get a fair bit of credit. So, maybe not in a way that 3D chess rationale goes, but SY deserves a lot of credit here.

Hakan Anderson. Arguably the GOAT of scouts in Sweden

 

[Hockeyfan2390]

That's probably Yzerman's rebuild timeline. I think when one of Cossa and/or Augustine hit and prove to be a legit starter, it's GO time. I think that is when you start seeing Yzerman being more aggressive in trades and UFA signings.

So, another 2-3 years???

 

[Hockeyfan2390]

Hired in April 2019
Traded Hronek for Asp in March 2023 (and replaced him with Petry)
Drafted 2 very promising goalies along the way
Ready to roll in 2028 (5 years after trading Hronek)

Abso-fukking-lutely not.

Does appear to be the plan.

Then it had better change. In no universe is it acceptable to not expect meaningful results only when a near-decade has passed.

jesus christ

What’s even more bothersome is that there are still far too many fans who are perfectly fine with that sort of timeline based on nothing but his last name.