Detroit Redwings Downfall

[norrisnick]

I think you and @FriendlyGhost92 need this reminder:

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You can tout the genius of Steve Yzerman when his team isn't a near-perpetual bottom ten club. That day is not today and no amount of coping in this thread can fix that, so sorry. See you back here in 2027 with what I assume will be a boat load of fresh new excuses.

Now do 2019 and the U25 crop of players then and now...

 

[ShakenNotStirred]

It will be six years as of April unless you think he's being fired before then... which is not likely if the org views him with the same red-tinted glasses his fans here do.

In that time, do you think any of Antti Tuomisto, Robert Mastrosimone, Albert Johansson, William Wallinder, Theodor Niederbach or Cross Hanas suddenly become NHL difference makers? Oh, and never mind that's just his first two years of throwing non-top ten picks into a wood chipper. Stevie is giving Ken Holland a run for his money with that kind of drafting, and I don't mean that in a nice way.

What drafting are you talking about? The zadina's, Anthanisiu's and manthas or the seiders, Raymond's and Kaspers?

The biggest difference between the two gms is Steve won't be paying out the contracts old Kenny does, see abdelkador and nurse as examples.

 

[Golden_Jet]

The biggest difference between the two gms is Steve won't be paying out the contracts old Kenny does, see abdelkador and nurse as examples.

Stevie Y no longer has to pay out the Walman contract, took care of that by sending a second round pick with it.

 

[norrisnick]

Stevie Y no longer has to pay out the Walman contract, took care of that by sending a second round pick with it.

Which apparently are worthless as picks anyway, so it cost nothing.

 

[Shane Diesel]

You are contradicted in literally the first headline of the first hockey article you posted

You didn't read anything I posted, did you?

 

[Nogatco Rd]

You didn't read anything I posted, did you?

bruh YOU didn't read what you posted.. the first hockey article you posted is behind a paywall

 

[Shane Diesel]

bruh YOU didn't read what you posted.. the first hockey article you posted is behind a paywall

The other three aren't. What's the excuse there?

 

[Nogatco Rd]

The other three aren't. What's the excuse there?

so just to be clear.. you didn't read the ESPN article?

and i pretty much nailed it when I said people who quote articles instead of actually responding rarely even read the articles themselves?

 

[Shane Diesel]

so just to be clear.. you didn't read the ESPN article?

and i pretty much nailed it when I said people who quote articles instead of actually responding rarely even read the articles themselves?

I have ESPN+ so I have read it.

I will give you this, you are a master of deflection when it comes to the topic at hand.

 

[Nogatco Rd]

I have ESPN+ so I have read it.

I will give you this, you are a master of deflection when it comes to the topic at hand.

I didn't make it past the headline when I realized it contradicted your point that drafting is "almost entirely about luck"

 

[Shane Diesel]

I didn't make it past the headline when I realized it contradicted your point that drafting is "almost entirely about luck"

That article, nor the others, contradict my point.

But how would you know? You didn't read them.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

Petry and Chiarot 2nd pair is not good enough. Holl isn’t very good. The defence overall is just not good enough. They don’t take many shots on goal, partly because their D struggles to get the puck out to the forwards. Not something you can easily fix at this stage in the season. They needed a good Dman in the offseason. Walman move was a head-scratcher. Seider could be playing better.

There’s depth up front but not enough guys who actually make plays and create scoring chances. Tarasenko and Kane are getting old. They’re one of the lowest scoring teams in the league at 5 on 5. Outside of the top line there’s no offensive to speak of. Compher and Copp don’t look like 5M $ players.

The PP is on fire but they just can’t score at 5 on 5 and they don’t create enough chances. The PK is just horrendous.

Goaltending has been really good and likely the only reason they’re still close to .500 … Not sure I had Cam Talbot putting up those numbers on my bingo card but he’s been keeping them in games.

Can’t imagine they make the playoffs this year. There’s just a lot missing on the roster. There’s holes on D and not enough on forward. The goalies are unlikely to sustain this level of play. I feel like they have regressed from last season. This is a one line team.

Wushu taking about willis

Red Wings quietly have the deepest defensive group in the league

I can't really find any other team aside from Vegas and Boston that has a more well rounded, balanced and potential threat line up than the Wings. Gostisbehere, Petry, Määttä, that's 90-100 points alone from #4-6 guys. I don't think there's any team with that kind of scoring punch from depth...

forums.hfboards.com

 

[Nogatco Rd]

That article, nor the others, don't contradict my point.

But how would you know? You didn't read them.

Your first article doesn't support your point that "drafting is almost entirely luck" at all.

~15 paragraphs that can be summed up as "drafting pro bowl players is hard" "you usually find them in the first round, but sometimes you find them in later rounds."

Again, supports my contention that you merely googled for articles you thought would support your opinion, without actually reading them.