Detroit Redwings Downfall

[eojsmada]

holl is a known commodity by the time yzerman signed him. but i get what you're saying.

yzerman thrived under tampas scouts but hasn't been able to build the same type of organization in detroit,

Ken Holland made a Hall of Fame career off the backs of Hakan Anderson and Jim Devellano.

 

[Perfect_Drug]

The reality of the draft lottery is that teams at the top of the draft have better chances of moving backward in the draft than staying put/advancing.

So Wings and Columbus probably sucked for a long time.....

Just because a team drafts at the top doesn't mean they got an elite player.

The Oilers got Hall, RNH, and Yakupov 1st overall and none of them were elite. It wasn't until they got McDavid and Draisaitl that the thing got turned around.


The Wings have NO elite talent. They have some decent support players, but nobody elite. Same with Columbus.

Jury is still out on Fantilli & Lindstrom, but they're not exactly tracking to be in the same stratosphere as Bedard or Celebrini.

 

[VeteranPresence]

So much hyperbole. Team was less than 1 point from playoffs last season. We're 14 games into this one.

...and they're still not in playoff position. Stevie Y's plan is gonna kick in any day, right?

 

[PM88RU]

Maybe Helle?

He already has 2 Vezinas and is trending this season towards his third.
Winning hardware across several seasons. He's a f***ing wall. What do you mean "Maybe" ellite?

The dude is considered the best goalie in hockey with Shesh. He's 100% elite, and might even be headed towards the HHOF.

Agreed.

The point was there’s no superstar power in Jets team besides Helle, and he surely doesn’t play D or F.

Somehow Jets GM managed to assemble a team to beat. And Winnipeg is no Florida or NY to attract UFAs. So, GM made a tremendous work!

I really respect that and wish them to get a Cup in the nearest future.

What I’m trying to say, “tank it” doesn’t guarantee you anything. It’s better to find its own way IMHO. DRW is known for non-standard decisions and draft picks. From Russian 5 to Dats and Z, there are lots of brilliant stories. Yes, that maybe harder than “go full tank” mode, but that’s what separates excellent GMs and scout services from mediocre. Hard work and risky takes against counting on luck to get good draft numbers.

 

[Cursed Lemon]

How far are you gonna get in the playoffs? Do you really think what you have in the system is gonna beat Florida, Rangers, Carolina, Jersey, etc. in a few years?

Don't tell me. Tell the fanbase (one that hasn't moved up in the draft in like a decade) that they should be happy to be bottom-3 in the league for like 8 years.

 

[Hockeyfan2390]

So much hyperbole. Team was less than 1 point from playoffs last season. We're 14 games into this one.

And why did they miss the playoffs last season?

Could it have had something to do with their self-implosion in March despite having a 9 point lead from the cutoff point at the end of February?