Speculation: Detroit - Buffalo?

[FriendlyGhost92]

Well, we recently paid 2nd for a guy like that (Greenway) and he was good for us. But where is Byram and where is 2nd. If Rasmussen is like Greenway, I'm not against adding him, it's just that Byram doesn't fit in with it. Some guy like Krebs or maybe a pick.

Based on Yzerman's comments after firing Lalonde, I'm not sure he's looking to add picks at this stage.

Granted, he could always take one and flip it into something else.

 

[TheOctopusKid]

Well, we recently paid 2nd for a guy like that (Greenway) and he was good for us. But where is Byram and where is 2nd. If Rasmussen is like Greenway, I'm not against adding him, it's just that Byram doesn't fit in with it. Some guy like Krebs or maybe a pick.

Yeah, a lot of this doesn't add up. I think one of your posters (Beerz, or Chain?) said this is either a nothing-burger trade, or one of the fanbases is going to be really unhappy. These aren't really ideal trade partners and what makes this more annoying is that DET front office never leaks anything. Like ever. It's one of the reasons the DET board gloms on to Pete because he does give some foresight (take that for what it's worth).

I can only speculate but given the shakeup rumors around BUF, that the Greenway thing was seen as a success that they would try to grab similar guys? But it seems like you have a lot of steak in your group with Tuch, Greenway, Tage, etc. etc. I don't know why Ras would be necessary and feel redundant. Or maybe Adams wants to build the 90s Flyers? No clue... Its why I didn't jump to Rasmussen as the likely player they were looking at, but maybe he is?

I don't think either squad is scouring the other main club either way for picks and prospects. Given both teams and GMs pushing to shake up their cores to make a run, this doesn't feel like a futures discussion. maybe picks to balance? but given what we've seen, this feels like roster for roster if anything happens

 

[Fjordy]

Yeah, a lot of this doesn't add up. I think one of your posters (Beerz, or Chain?) said this is either a nothing-burger trade, or one of the fanbases is going to be really unhappy. These aren't really ideal trade partners and what makes this more annoying is that DET front office never leaks anything. Like ever. It's one of the reasons the DET board gloms on to Pete because he does give some foresight (take that for what it's worth).

I can only speculate but given the shakeup rumors around BUF, that the Greenway thing was seen as a success that they would try to grab similar guys? But it seems like you have a lot of steak in your group with Tuch, Greenway, Tage, etc. etc. I don't know why Ras would be necessary and feel redundant. Or maybe Adams wants to build the 90s Flyers? No clue... Its why I didn't jump to Rasmussen as the likely player they were looking at, but maybe he is?

I don't think either squad is scouring the other main club either way for picks and prospects. Given both teams and GMs pushing to shake up their cores to make a run, this doesn't feel like a futures discussion. maybe picks to balance? but given what we've seen, this feels like roster for roster if anything happens

Well, we don't have a lot of physical players, Thompson isn't like that, Tuch isn't always like that. Greenway is physical, he helped out on defense and played PK, a decent third line player. But that's the problem, Greenway got injured and had surgery, he's out for a few months and rumors are he's going to UFA in the summer, so we'll probably trade him at TDL and we need someone like that to replace him on the roster. That's why Rasmussen could be useful to us if he's stylistically similar to Greenway.

 

[Djp]

I am telling you I knew both those things over a month before they happened. Yzerman stepping down in Tampa was a fairly shocking move. It does happen again nobody needs to get overly invested as a lot falls through. Just if you guys/gals want to say the poster knows nothing and we say hey in the past some big things have happened that were called before hand to each their own.

Yzerman going to Detroit to be GM was an easy bet. When the detroit job opened up and the fact detroit was flatlining was obvious. It was his team and hed br a ssvior/ hero

You may not like what he is saying, but @Petes2424 always post informed opinions on this site. I think it clear from his history that he has some informed information from individuals around the game, and specific to the Red Wings. He was calling Kane to Detroit long before anyone else was.

Maybe he has acrep to fo that, but in this thread he us a used csr salesman.

No object person thinks rasmussen= byram. Hr just wanted yo sell whi Rassmussen is eed without addressing the bslue differences that many were you pojntingboug bbn on here

Trades are not equal just because contracts are close in csp hit value

 

[SoupNazi]

Yzerman going to Detroit to be GM was an easy bet. When the detroit job opened up and the fact detroit was flatlining was obvious. It was his team and hed br a ssvior/ hero



Maybe he has acrep to fo that, but in this thread he us a used csr salesman.

No object person thinks rasmussen= byram. Hr just wanted yo sell whi Rassmussen is eed without addressing the bslue differences that many were you pojntingboug bbn on here

Trades are not equal just because contracts are close in csp hit value

What?

Like seriously, what? I'm not trying to be a smartass but this post is unreadable.

 

[WestlakeWingFan]

Yzerman going to Detroit to be GM was an easy bet. When the detroit job opened up and the fact detroit was flatlining was obvious. It was his team and hed br a ssvior/ hero



Maybe he has acrep to fo that, but in this thread he us a used csr salesman.

No object person thinks rasmussen= byram. Hr just wanted yo sell whi Rassmussen is eed without addressing the bslue differences that many were you pojntingboug bbn on here

Trades are not equal just because contracts are close in csp hit value

Are you having a stroke?

 

[Beerz]

Are you having a stroke?

You think that's funny?

 

[Chainshot]

Yeah, a lot of this doesn't add up. I think one of your posters (Beerz, or Chain?) said this is either a nothing-burger trade, or one of the fanbases is going to be really unhappy. These aren't really ideal trade partners and what makes this more annoying is that DET front office never leaks anything. Like ever. It's one of the reasons the DET board gloms on to Pete because he does give some foresight (take that for what it's worth).

I can only speculate but given the shakeup rumors around BUF, that the Greenway thing was seen as a success that they would try to grab similar guys? But it seems like you have a lot of steak in your group with Tuch, Greenway, Tage, etc. etc. I don't know why Ras would be necessary and feel redundant. Or maybe Adams wants to build the 90s Flyers? No clue... Its why I didn't jump to Rasmussen as the likely player they were looking at, but maybe he is?

I don't think either squad is scouring the other main club either way for picks and prospects. Given both teams and GMs pushing to shake up their cores to make a run, this doesn't feel like a futures discussion. maybe picks to balance? but given what we've seen, this feels like roster for roster if anything happens

May have been me. I figure it is an either or. either nothing or something one team hates.

 

[Zman5778]

What?

Like seriously, what? I'm not trying to be a smartass but this post is unreadable.

Are you having a stroke?

He's a regular on the Sabres forum and uses assistive technology to be able to post to the boards.

 

[TKB]

Yzerman going to Detroit to be GM was an easy bet. When the detroit job opened up and the fact detroit was flatlining was obvious. It was his team and hed br a ssvior/ hero



Maybe he has acrep to fo that, but in this thread he us a used csr salesman.

No object person thinks rasmussen= byram. Hr just wanted yo sell whi Rassmussen is eed without addressing the bslue differences that many were you pojntingboug bbn on here

Trades are not equal just because contracts are close in csp hit value

There was no "opening" for Yzerman to return to.

He relinquished his duties as GM in Tampa with a year left on his contract.

When he was hired in Detroit a year later, Ken Holland "moved upstairs." Holland subsequently took the GM role in Edmonton as he wanted to continue in a GM role.

It continues to amaze me how many Red Wing "experts" who clearly don't know anywhere near as much about the organization as they think they do exist on HF and for some strange reason feel a need to "educate" us about the team.

 

[TheOctopusKid]

May have been me. I figure it is an either or. either nothing or something one team hates.

Yeah...I'm kind of with you on this one. This feels like it's going to not happen/swap of irrelevant players that no one cares about.

OR

One of these fanbases is WILDLY off on the perceived value of their player. Either way, this is going to be... disappointing? Hahaha

 

[tsujimoto74]

What?

Like seriously, what? I'm not trying to be a smartass but this post is unreadable.

Djp has to use adaptive technology to post, and sometimes it works better than others. I find it’s generally intelligible but maybe that’s because I’m used to seeing it.

 

[VictoriaJetsFan]

In a Dahlin for Seider trade proposal, I'm not sure the Sabres are the only ones to say no.

There, I said it.

I do have a nagging suspicion that Seider might be a tad overrated at times by some in the Red Wings fanbase, myself included.

But I do know beyond the shadow of a doubt that Seider is woefully underrated outside of Detroit.

Hey Hi!

I made that Seider for Dahlin trade proposal back then, but I wouldn't do it now as Buffalo is incapable of winning a game without Dahlin, and I can't see Seider having that much of an impact Dahlin does, for all of the odd things Dahlin does sometimes.

But I'll tell you this, Owen Power for ASP and something has the Sabres losing no offence from their D and a much needed right handed shot.

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

Well, we don't have a lot of physical players, Thompson isn't like that, Tuch isn't always like that. Greenway is physical, he helped out on defense and played PK, a decent third line player. But that's the problem, Greenway got injured and had surgery, he's out for a few months and rumors are he's going to UFA in the summer, so we'll probably trade him at TDL and we need someone like that to replace him on the roster. That's why Rasmussen could be useful to us if he's stylistically similar to Greenway.

With his cap hit and term...it's going to cost a bit.

 

[MagnumForce2]

I think Byram is worth more than
Jiricek who returned Daemon Hunt, 2025 1st round pick, 2027 2nd round pick, 2026 3rd and 4th round picks

 

[Uberpecker]

Hey Hi!

I made that Seider for Dahlin trade proposal back then, but I wouldn't do it now as Buffalo is incapable of winning a game without Dahlin, and I can't see Seider having that much of an impact Dahlin does, for all of the odd things Dahlin does sometimes.

But I'll tell you this, Owen Power for ASP and something has the Sabres losing no offence from their D and a much needed right handed shot.

Whos ASP

 

[VictoriaJetsFan]

Whos ASP

Axel Sandin Pelika

 

[datsyukfan]

Hey Hi!

I made that Seider for Dahlin trade proposal back then, but I wouldn't do it now as Buffalo is incapable of winning a game without Dahlin, and I can't see Seider having that much of an impact Dahlin does, for all of the odd things Dahlin does sometimes.

But I'll tell you this, Owen Power for ASP and something has the Sabres losing no offence from their D and a much needed right handed shot.

Detroit ain’t moving ASP for power and they sure as hell aren’t adding more to that deal

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

Djp has to use adaptive technology to post, and sometimes it works better than others. I find it’s generally intelligible but maybe that’s because I’m used to seeing it.

Good to know, what he wrote about the Yzerman timeline was false. Without shots towards the poster the information is just plain wrong, which happens a lot in the main boards crusade on Yzerman.

There was always a hope at some point he would come home but it had honestly faded a decent amount, I remember being completely floored the first time I heard the rumor. I know he loves Detroit but he built a prohibitive cup favorite and left them before they cashed for the worst talent situation in the league. Once he stepped down in Tampa it could have been obvious but in the Summer of 2018 they would have locked the thread for suggesting that sequence around here.

 

[SoupNazi]

Djp has to use adaptive technology to post, and sometimes it works better than others. I find it’s generally intelligible but maybe that’s because I’m used to seeing it.

Thank you. Knowing that helps going forward.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

Stole from @TheOctopusKid on Detroit's subforum.

Take it with a grain of salt. It's a podcast of retired Sabres, with Buffalo ties.

 

[Uberpecker]

Axel Sandin Pelika

Thanks for clarifying. No interest from Buffalo.

 

[Chainshot]

Stole from @TheOctopusKid on Detroit's subforum.

Take it with a grain of salt. It's a podcast of retired Sabres, with Buffalo ties.

They've been right once in their entire time on the air - because one of them coached Tuch's little brother in junior so they knew the Eichel to Vegas deal a smidge earlier than anyone else. In terms of "breaking" anything other than wind and one's will to live when listening to them, they aren't great sources.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

They've been right once in their entire time on the air - because one of them coached Tuch's little brother in junior so they knew the Eichel to Vegas deal a smidge earlier than anyone else. In terms of "breaking" anything other than wind and one's will to live when listening to them, they aren't great sources.

Fair enough. Though worth noting, Cozens is screams "Yzerman player". It does pass the logic test that Detroit would be interested.

 

[truthbluth]

Not a deal I’d want, but there is some logic to Cozens for Kasper+. Makes the Sabres younger, which I hate. But it does swap out a “seems like a 2way center, but is actually an offensive winger” for an actual 2 way center, which fits Lindy’s MO. Not sold on Kasper’s offensive upside though. God I’d hate this. Sabres are loaded with quarters, they need to be on the other end of “4 quarters for a dollar” trades.