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Proposal: Det-Mtl

I'm assuming you mean 2017 1st and if so Detroit wouldn't come close to making this deal. Wings writer Kahn stated a few years ago that the team had no interest in Petry and that they didn't see him as an improvement. Now that may have changed but there is no way they will give up those assets for Petry. If you mean Petry + Sergachev that is closer but still not sure the Wings do it.
 
Benstheman said:
Det desperately needs help at RHD.

Mtl needs help up front.

How about :

Petry + 2016 1st + Lehkonen

for

Tatar + Sheahan + Mantha
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The offer is top notch

But the under no circumstances are the Habs in a position to trade Petry. No matter who you like more between Subban or Weber is your call, but mobility is an undisputed loss to the D core and Petry is one of our few defensmen that skate well.

If we had Subban I'd accept that proposal any day.
 
No thanks, If Detroit truly wanted Petry we would've traded for him when Montreal did. I heard that our scouts weren't all that high on him so Holland decided against trading for him. I would take my chances either with Fowler or Shattenkirk or Trouba should he become available.
 
If Sergachev makes the team out of camp, I would be open to moving Petry.

Beaulieu-Weber
Markov-Sergachev
Emelin-Pateryn

I don't know if Detroit has interest in Petry, he seems like a good fit on paper, but I dunno.
 
Tatar Shots said:
I'm assuming you mean 2017 1st and if so Detroit wouldn't come close to making this deal. Wings writer Kahn stated a few years ago that the team had no interest in Petry and that they didn't see him as an improvement. Now that may have changed but there is no way they will give up those assets for Petry. If you mean Petry + Sergachev that is closer but still not sure the Wings do it.
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Wow!!

You are way off if you think Tatar and Mantha worth Petry and Sergachev.

Value wise, Petry = Tatar IMO and Sergachev >> Mantha

Based on needs for Detroit, because you really sucks at RHD, Petry would be much more important to you than Tatar.

You would be a pretty bad GM if youd'e refuse Petry and Sergachev for Tatar and Mantha.
 
Number1RedWingsFan52 said:
No thanks, If Detroit truly wanted Petry we would've traded for him when Montreal did. I heard that our scouts weren't all that high on him so Holland decided against trading for him. I would take my chances either with Fowler or Shattenkirk or Trouba should he become available.
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Fowler is LHD.

I agree Shattenkirk and Trouba are top pair D and better than Petry but you would pay much more than Tatar for them. And both of them would ask for much money than the 5,5M$ per Petry is making.
 
There's no reason for Sheahan, Mantha, Lehkonen or that 1st to be involved in this deal.

Tatar and Petry are probably close, Tatar is younger and has more upside, but top-4 D are hard to find.

I wouldn't do this from Montreal's perspective, just because Petry is too hard to replace in today's market.
 
Pax Macioretty said:
The offer is top notch

But the under no circumstances are the Habs in a position to trade Petry. No matter who you like more between Subban or Weber is your call, but mobility is an undisputed loss to the D core and Petry is one of our few defensmen that skate well.

If we had Subban I'd accept that proposal any day.
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Sergachev is playing both sides efficiently.

I would see him play with Markov on the second pair.
 
From a Montreal POV, I wouldn't do it. Petry will be their best skating defender, he'll slot in right behind Weber, and he should be able to eat significant minutes. He won't be a big point producer, but he'll be a strong #3.
 
Raimu said:
There's no reason for Sheahan, Mantha, Lehkonen or that 1st to be involved in this deal.

Tatar and Petry are probably close, Tatar is younger and has more upside, but top-4 D are hard to find.

I wouldn't do this from Montreal's perspective, just because Petry is too hard to replace in today's market.
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As i was writing before, Sergachev plays both L and R sides. I think Petry would be adequately replaced by him as soon as 2017-2018 season.

As for the other components, i just tried to balance $ and give a potential replacement to Tatar on LW.
 
BLNY said:
From a Montreal POV, I wouldn't do it. Petry will be their best skating defender, he'll slot in right behind Weber, and he should be able to eat significant minutes. He won't be a big point producer, but he'll be a strong #3.
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According to Wings fans, Petry isn't much of interest...:help:
 
BLNY said:
From a Montreal POV, I wouldn't do it. Petry will be their best skating defender, he'll slot in right behind Weber, and he should be able to eat significant minutes. He won't be a big point producer, but he'll be a strong #3.
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Sergachev (imo) isn't as far off of replacing Petry as some think.

With the depth on LD, and the fact that Sergachev prefers his off-side, Petry can be moved without leaving a huge hole (if Sergachev shows he is ready). It also gives MTL the opportunity to pair him with Markov, which would be a great mentor to have.

Ignoring the other pieces, does Petry get close to Tatar/Nyquist without a significant add?
 
Benstheman said:
Sergachev is playing both sides efficiently.

I would see him play with Markov on the second pair.
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Sergachev hasn't proven anything yet at the NHL level. I know you're super excited about with the whole new toy syndrome, but, he's not an NHL defenseman yet.
 
detriot needs a upgrade on d to if there gonna make a trade, they have plenty of 3rd-6th defencemen already
 
Detroit doesn't do this but it isn't that far off. Perty and Tartar are a wash (2nd liner/first line tweener for #3 RD which we have seen have high value). The issue is the first can be either late and be a bad deal, or early and be an over pay.

Mantha is/was severely over rated. He's a Kapanen level prospect, not a Nylander one like Detroit fans we're saying before.

Then it's a most likely bust for a 3rd liner. So like I said depending on where that first lands depends on value. For that reason Detroit says no.
 
Not even a little interested. Only way I do it is if Price is going to be hurt again and that 2017 first is top ten. In which case you guys probably aren't interested. I don't think these two fanbases are ever going to agree on a deal so I'd just drop it if I were you.
 
Benstheman said:
Fowler is LHD.

I agree Shattenkirk and Trouba are top pair D and better than Petry but you would pay much more than Tatar for them. And both of them would ask for much money than the 5,5M$ per Petry is making.
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Yeah i know that Fowler is a LHD, He most likely replaces Kronwall as our #1 D-man down the road here.

Would rather have Shattenkirk or Trouba but the price to acquire them plus what it would cost us to sign them long term. Not sure if it would be worth the price.
 
Not even slightly tempting, from a Detroit POV. Petry is too marginal an upgrade to accept losing a ~30 goal wing on a team that already sucks at scoring, C depth and one of our top prospects, and the first only balances out if Price misses the entire season, again. Hard pass.
 
Benstheman said:
Det desperately needs help at RHD.

Mtl needs help up front.

How about :

Petry + 2016 1st + Lehkonen

for

Tatar + Sheahan + Mantha
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Way too many pieces in this proposal.

We aren't giving you Tatar or Mantha for Jeff Petry.

If you want to do something centered around Sheahan + mid rd pick/mid level propsect for Petry, we can talk.
 
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