Confirmed Signing with Link: [DET] Luke Glendening (4 years, $1.8M AAV)

[LowFive]

I disagree with the narrative that he's a useful utility player. I think he's not an NHL-quality player and ideally would not want him on my team in any role

You must not watch Glendog play very often. It isn't some narrative being spun by media, he is what he is. A extremely hard working 4th liner who fills a role that every team needs in some capacity. He has speed and a high compete level. Why did Babcock love him so much? He loves someone who works hard on and off the ice.

 

[DanZ]

I disagree with the narrative that he's a useful utility player. I think he's not an NHL-quality player and ideally would not want him on my team in any role

This guy knows more than Mike Babcock and Jeff Blashill put together.

 

[KPower]

Wings got the most 4th liners in the league.

 

[Machinehead]

Find it hard to believe Babcock was a big fan knowing that Babcock is a known possession coach and Glendening is abhorrent at possession.

 

[nbwingsfan]

I disagree with the narrative that he's a useful utility player. I think he's not an NHL-quality player and ideally would not want him on my team in any role

That's just plain wrong. He's one of the best 4th line shutdown players in the league. He has a spot on every single team in the NHL.

 

[Reddwit]

Find it hard to believe Babcock was a big fan knowing that Babcock is a known possession coach and Glendening is abhorrent at possession.

Lol, yeah. Babs played Glen 15+ minutes a night at times but didn't like him.

The coach had a ****ing love affair with Glendening.

 

[13to40]

I disagree with the narrative that he's a useful utility player. I think he's not an NHL-quality player and ideally would not want him on my team in any role

Either lots of sarcasm or you're basing this off looking at his career numbers and you've never actually seen him play.

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

Find it hard to believe Babcock was a big fan knowing that Babcock is a known possession coach and Glendening is abhorrent at possession.

I would venture a guess Babcock never liked a player in Detroit more than he liked Glendening. Heck he didn't shutup about him from the moment he got with the Griffins and what an every-dayer he was.

One of the things to keep in mind about Glendening's possession numbers and in particular his corsi numbers is he actually doesn't yield many high grade scoring chances. A part of that is his defensive intelligence, he pushes offenses into a lot of useless zone time and difficult shots. But if you look at Corsi he is about the worst thing going. Yes he isn't great offensively though he has no problem mucking it up down low and going to greasy areas, it just isn't what he does well. But defensively the guy is a rock, he is extremely hard to play against.

Didn't need this many years, but that is just how Holland rolls. Good AVV, but we are always tacking on these extra years and it is becoming a massive problem. By themselves not terrible, but it is really adding up.

 

[Fear]

This guy knows more than Mike Babcock and Jeff Blashill put together.

Either lots of sarcasm or you're basing this off looking at his career numbers and you've never actually seen him play.

No sarcasm, I've watched him play.

I can see why coaches would love him. He works hard, he does everything the coach tells him to do. Problem is he just isn't very good at it.

The guy lives in his own zone. Good 4th liners are the ones who can grind it out and cycle in the o-zone. They don't need to score but it wears down the D at least.

 

[LowFive]

No sarcasm, I've watched him play.

I can see why coaches would love him. He works hard, he does everything the coach tells him to do. Problem is he just isn't very good at it.

The guy lives in his own zone. Good 4th liners are the ones who can grind it out and cycle in the o-zone. They don't need to score but it wears down the D at least.

The thing that many people don't give him credit for (and what kills his corsi for those interested in that) is that he plays primarily against the other team's top line. Most 4th liners aren't consistently matched against 1st or 2nd line competition. Luke is usually matched against the opponent's star player. Can you realistically expect any 4th line to have much o-zone time against that competition? His role (especially under Babs) was to bend but don't break under the weight of the opponent's top line. Then hopefully our top guys score on the mismatch they get as a result.

Those who watched the Red Wings-Tampa series in 2015 saw the difference between having Glendening matched up against Tyler Johnson vs having Glendening injured. We got throttled w/o him. He got hurt when we were up 2-0 in the 3rd period and Johnson's line scored 3 goals to win in OT.

 

[Man Bear Pig]

Signing 4th liners to that kind of term is silly to me but the cap hit is so low it has very little impact. It's not likely to burn you down the road really.

 

[Tom ServoMST3K]

Odd to sign an acknowledged fourth liner to that term.

How quickly do teams usually turnover their fourth lines?

 

[X8oD]

Odd to sign an acknowledged fourth liner to that term.

How quickly do teams usually turnover their fourth lines?

Depends, are they from Michigan, and/or Not really physical and/or seemingly keen on keeping their teem muddled into permanent mediocrity, all the while preaching the coaches technique and reinforcing the teams company line?

Then, 4-6 years.

See, Dan Cleary, Drew Miller, Luke Glendening.

 

[Mad Brills*]

Money's average for a decent 4th liner, which he is.

4 years though, why?

 

[tony d]

Decent depth signing here for Detroit.

 

[Torso9000]

I'm looking forward to Byron Froese's 4 year extension next season.

 

[Mikos87]

He's a very good 4th line player. DET paid a premium for a type of guy that's not abundant in the league.

4th line RH C/RW that can win draws kill penalties, and provides a strong side safety net in the d-zone circle.

 

[luiginb]

I'm looking forward to Byron Froese's 4 year extension next season.

Glendening is 1 mil overpaid, but is a decent 4th liner. Froese shouldn't be in the league.

 

[Reddwit]

Not sure why everyone is concerned about the term. If the AAV is reasonable, and the guy is durable, it makes sense. IMO, this is how you guard against the possibility that these guys catch lightning in a bottle one season and nab 15-20 goals and 30+ points. Late 20s seems like when these anomalies pop up.

Also, calling Glen a 4th liner is something of a misnomer. He's played 14-14.5 minutes a night for the past 3 seasons. Considering how beloved he was by the league's alleged best coach, he must be doing something right.

 

[iloveloov*]

Congratulations to Mr. Luke "Beauty" Glendening on a well earned contract

 

[Butchered]

I'd have absolutely no issue if TB signed this guy to this contract. He's good at what he does.

 

[FissionFire]

Being saddled for the next 5 years with one of the worst possession players in the game seems foolhardy. It's not like this guys physical skills or tools are going to improve at all. Really not a fan of Holland's trend towards giving ancillary players lots of term. These are the guys that are replaceable, not core pieces you can't live without. Not to mention tying up 1.8M to a 4th line poor possession defensive/PK specialist at best seems a bit excessive when you have plenty of younger guys who are ready to try that role. Great teams are built from the top down with cheap fillers at the bottom lines, not pricey depth players.

 

[Roboturner913]

People underestimate the importance of a good 4th line. Worth it for one of the best in the game today.

 

[jkutswings]

Glendenning was indeed the poster child for the latter Babcock years in Detroit:

Focus completely on minimizing opponents' scoring chances, and ignore your own offense, to hope you win 1-0. Highly exciting hockey to watch.

 

[Marky9er]

Glendening is 1 mil overpaid, but is a decent 4th liner. Froese shouldn't be in the league.

Is he even 1 mil over league minimum? Or do you mean 1 mil over the entire term? It would be nicer at 1.55, sure.