Derek Ryan waived / Josh Brown demoted

[OilfaninTO]

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[TopShelfGloveSide]

Oh shit they actually waived Ryan.

 

[DaGap]

Happy for Derek to have a successful career. Hope he enjoys retirement

 

[Fixed to Ruin]

I don't agree with Ryan on waivers. He's the ideal extra forward. He's also 60% in the dot

 

[Messrules11]

I guess so

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

I don't agree with Ryan on waivers. He's the ideal extra forward. He's also 60% in the dot

He’s a good call up, hopefully he clears. Being 60% on the dot but the worst player on the ice most nights doesn’t make him worth a roster spot though.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

I don't agree with Ryan on waivers. He's the ideal extra forward. He's also 60% in the dot

I doubt he gets picked up and can be called up if/when needed
but he's cooked....slow, no more offense and plenty of other better PKers out there

 

[Wreckus]

Not surprised as Philp clearly took over Ryan's spot on the roster.

 

[Mr Kot]

 

[Frank the Tank]

When we went to the game in Chicago. Derek Ryan was the only player who interacted with the young Oilers fans by the glass during warm up, flipping a puck to the kid besides me. He's a good guy, who just can't keep up anymore.

 

[Fixed to Ruin]

I doubt he gets picked up and can be called up if/when needed
but he's cooked....slow, no more offense and plenty of other better PKers out there

Perhaps that's true however I still think you can play him sparingly in the extra forward role.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

They get back to Edmonton and are immediately back to a barebones roster.
Though I guess Kling should be with the active group soon enough.


A little surprised they sent down Brown, with Washington and a Vancouver rematch right around the corner, but it's not like he did much on the physical front over the last few games.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Not going to lie, I wanted to see both Philp and Ryan in a game together. But then I noticed they both played vs. NJ back in November.

Pretty cool to have two CIS players in the lineup together, let alone two former Golden Bears.

The Golden Bears of the 2010s actually featured 4 guys to get NHL minutes. I'm not sure how many other programs can claim that over their entire history, let alone from a single decade.

Ryan was there in 09-10
Luke Philp was there from '16 to '19 and got 3 games with CHI
Noah was there in 19-20
as was Matt Berlin who got a few min as the Oilers' EBUG a few years back.

 

[LeonDraisaitl29]

Ryan should retire at this point. When we win the cup he'll get his name on it and the guys will let him lift it on the ice. He's done, unfortunately. Great guy but ancient.

 

[McDoused]

I haven't seen it confirmed anywhere yet but my understanding is that with Ryan and Brown sent down, the Oilers would be under the cap. The Klingberg contract would only be 824k (as we wouldn't be operating in LTIR) and we would still be accruing cap space.

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

Hella career and not maybe not quite dead yet. The league can often find and wring out value in a high level processor player with right-handedness specialization of face-off wins in key situational play. The track's ended in Edmonton as they test-drive an inexperienced replacement before trade deadline but Ryan might be a cheap waiver wire add to add character and specialist skill to a locker room.

We'll see. Past Oiler coaches tried to squeeze out his utility with toi as a winger but Knoblauch overwhelmingly rolled his strength as a centre. Bonne Chance with the future Derek Ryan.

 

[Reginald Dunlop]

I haven't seen it confirmed anywhere yet but my understanding is that with Ryan and Brown sent down, the Oilers would be under the cap. The Klingberg contract would only be 824k (as we wouldn't be operating in LTIR) and we would still be accruing cap space.

This is my understanding as well. Tidy bit of business.

 

[MoontoScott]

I haven't seen it confirmed anywhere yet but my understanding is that with Ryan and Brown sent down, the Oilers would be under the cap. The Klingberg contract would only be 824k (as we wouldn't be operating in LTIR) and we would still be accruing cap space.

1.76M is what's listed on Puckpedia. What is the difference between your number here and theirs? Is it just the fact that he has joined very recently so it is prorated? Thanks in advance.

Also, what is the "Connor Brown bonus" in terms of cap space calculations for this year?

 

[FlameChampion]

When Holland signed Ryan to the 2 year deal, I kinda expected him to retire after the first and just LTIR the second year.

I think the game has passed him by honestly. Seems like a great guy. Sort of surprised to see him waived but I think its the right call.

 

[samiam]

Ryan should retire at this point. When we win the cup he'll get his name on it and the guys will let him lift it on the ice. He's done, unfortunately. Great guy but ancient.

Unfortunately he's 8 games shy of qualifying to get his name on the cup, should the Oilers win it this year.

 

[McDoused]

1.76M is what's listed on Puckpedia. What is the difference between your number here and theirs? Is it just the fact that he has joined very recently so it is prorated? Thanks in advance.

Also, what is the "Connor Brown bonus" in terms of cap space calculations for this year?

The Klingberg contract is complicated because it was signed mid year and includes a signing bonus. This is my understanding:

1. Klingbergs annual pro-rated salary is 1M. So if he signed it before the season he would have been owed the full 1M. However because he signed it with 91 days left it would be 91/192 or 47.4%. That's 474k in cash that he would be paid which is basically paid out as he plays the game, not as a lump sum.

2. Klingberg had a 350k signing bonus. This amount is paid in full. So if the Oilers are under the cap, the full 350k is added to the 474k. In total that would be 824k in cash paid out to the player.

3. This is different than his annual cap. His annual cap hit is the 1M annual salary plus the signing bonus of 350k. However, since the signing bonus was done for half the games, you essentially have to double (now 700k) if it was an "annual amount". That makes the annual cap hit 1.7 (1M salary plus 2x the signing bonus of 350k).

4. LTIR is a whole other ball of wax. LTIR doesn't increase a teams cap, rather it's supposed to "make teams whole". So when it comes to these mid-season contracts it actually penalizes you if you try using LTIR. So instead of the 824k, it uses that full 1.7M annual amount.

Hope that helps!

 

[Bring Back Bucky]

I think it is pretty unlikely he gets picked up. He will be a useful guy to have around as an option for the playoffs. Good guy and so good in the faceoff circle. Time eventually catches up to all of us who have the privilege of growing older.

 

[bellagiobob]

They get back to Edmonton and are immediately back to a barebones roster.
Though I guess Kling should be with the active group soon enough.


A little surprised they sent down Brown, with Washington and a Vancouver rematch right around the corner, but it's not like he did much on the physical front over the last few games.

With Klingberg we will be at a 22 man roster, so an extra F and an extra D. Better than what we usually run with.

 

[VeteranPresence]

At least someone is watching this team play and can recognize when mistakes were made. Ryan is done as a regular in this league and Brown never should've been leaned on as such. Whatever pro scout(s) were behind both of those calls should be canned, but on the other hand we'd have less than three of them then so probably not.

Klingberg gets his shot against WAS I would guess. With Connor likely suspended a game or two he can soak up all the PP minutes he can handle. Skinner probably draws back in after the team gave up 3+ goals in back to back games, which should help Knoblauch realize he's not the only one playing suspect D up front.

I wonder if Knob goes back to 11/7 for the next two games so he can have a safety valve in case Klingberg's fitness isn't up to par:

Podz-Draisaitl-Arvidsson
Skinner-RNH-Hyman
Janmark-Henrique-Brown
Philp-Perry/Kapanen

Ek-Bouch
Nurse-Klingberg
Kulak-Emberson
Stecher

 

[Heavy Dee]

They could have platooned him with Perry til he got to 41 games before TDL.

At least Bowman is serious about winning.