Prospect Info: Denton Mateychuk 12th Overall, 2022 NHL Draft

Doggy

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From now on, I’m telling myself Mateychuk was our 6th pick and Jiricek the boom/bust guy we took at 12. I think I’ll feel better that way.
This is kinda like the Foudy-Marchenko draft. Marchenko is the 1st rounder panning out and Foudy was the guy who didn't make it as a second rounder.

 

cbjthrowaway

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From now on, I’m telling myself Mateychuk was our 6th pick and Jiricek the boom/bust guy we took at 12. I think I’ll feel better that way.
and yet corey pronman's redrafts have routinely said that mateychuk was falling relative to his draft stock. i'm convinced we're not watching the same player.

would be fun to revisit the draft thread now but i remember this board writ large praying for the hockey gods to let jiricek fall to the jackets at 6, and the jackets being connected to gauthier with the pick before he went at 5.

i was one of the few who really wanted gauthier and wasn't high on jiricek. even with the slow start this year + the signing/trade drama (due to philly not offering an ELC after his D+1) gauthier looks like the better player.

it's an interesting 'what if' to think about now. had jiricek gone at 5 and the jackets gotten gauthier at 6, this place would have had a meltdown. but we would've gone into this year's draft with gauthier in the pipeline – a guy who is really similar to lindstrom – and a high pick.

would they have drafted demidov instead? or gone with a defenseman like buium or silayev or yakemchuk or parekh? or maybe they flip the pick for necas after all.
 
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and yet corey pronman's redrafts have routinely said that mateychuk was falling relative to his draft stock. i'm convinced we're not watching the same player.

would be fun to revisit the draft thread now but i remember this board writ large praying for the hockey gods to let jiricek fall to the jackets at 6, and the jackets being connected to gauthier with the pick before he went at 5.

i was one of the few who really wanted gauthier and wasn't high on jiricek. even with the slow start this year + the signing/trade drama (due to philly not offering an ELC after his D+1) gauthier looks like the better player.

it's an interesting 'what if' to think about now. had jiricek gone at 5 and the jackets gotten gauthier at 6, this place would have had a meltdown. but we would've gone into this year's draft with gauthier in the pipeline – a guy who is really similar to lindstrom – and a high pick.

would they have drafted demidov instead? or gone with a defenseman like buium or silayev or yakemchuk or parekh? or maybe they flip the pick for necas after all.
The guy who the team who drafted him was forced to trade and has 1 goal so far?
 

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and yet corey pronman's redrafts have routinely said that mateychuk was falling relative to his draft stock. i'm convinced we're not watching the same player.

would be fun to revisit the draft thread now but i remember this board writ large praying for the hockey gods to let jiricek fall to the jackets at 6, and the jackets being connected to gauthier with the pick before he went at 5.

i was one of the few who really wanted gauthier and wasn't high on jiricek. even with the slow start this year + the signing/trade drama (due to philly not offering an ELC after his D+1) gauthier looks like the better player.

it's an interesting 'what if' to think about now. had jiricek gone at 5 and the jackets gotten gauthier at 6, this place would have had a meltdown. but we would've gone into this year's draft with gauthier in the pipeline – a guy who is really similar to lindstrom – and a high pick.

would they have drafted demidov instead? or gone with a defenseman like buium or silayev or yakemchuk or parekh? or maybe they flip the pick for necas after all.
Jiříček is 21. It's early to make closures.
 
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cbjthrowaway

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The guy who the team who drafted him was forced to trade and has 1 goal so far?
…yes? what was unclear about that?

the "forced a trade" thing comes down to not getting an ELC offer after his D+1 (something that would not have been an issue with jarmo given his predilection for getting prospects into the system ASAP)

as for the stats… he's shooting 2% right now. that's gonna regress to the mean (i.e. go up). with a normal shooting percentage he'd have double digit points already + be scoring at about a 50-55 point pace. also his underlying stats are solid (positive CF% on a really bad team).

Jiříček is 21. It's early to make closures.
sure. it's too early to make sweeping declarations about these things, but that's what message boards are for.

i'm also a "cayden lindstrom is going to be a 1C level player" guy, but what i'm saying is that there's a fun "what if" that swaps jiricek for gauthier and a ripple effect from there that swaps lindstrom for demidov or one of the defensemen in last year's draft (or even a necas trade).
 

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He's so good it's crazy. Love how he plays
I hope we keep him down there until he knows without a doubt, that's he's too good for the AHL and he's brimming full of confidence(and hopefully the team is on the up and up)
 

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I hope we keep him down there until he knows without a doubt, that's he's too good for the AHL and he's brimming full of confidence(and hopefully the team is on the up and up)

He started the season as just another rookie. Now he is seen as one of the better defensemen in the league, one of the best players on the Monsters (who are a pretty good team), and a guy who just won a first star award. Teams will start playing him differently. He will be hit harder. Teams will watch tape for his tendencies. Teams will specifically prepare to play against him. This is an important time in his AHL development to see how he responds.
 

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He started the season as just another rookie. Now he is seen as one of the better defensemen in the league, one of the best players on the Monsters (who are a pretty good team), and a guy who just won a first star award. Teams will start playing him differently. He will be hit harder. Teams will watch tape for his tendencies. Teams will specifically prepare to play against him. This is an important time in his AHL development to see how he responds.


Better to experience that stuff in the lower pro league before getting first taste of NHL action.

He looked very impressive in the game but there shouldn't be any rush to call him up yet.
 

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