Denmark doesn't like hockey?

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Denmark is not like other Nordic countries. it is more like central european country with no winter sport culture. The only sport they are good at are cycling and badminton. They like football but they suck at it like most of european countries.

Hey they won the Euros in 1992 so they’re not too bad

 

[vorky]

$250.000 to $350.000. I wouldn't say it's peanuts. On the other hand they all could have nothing.

Will the National League sign a transfer agreement with the NHL?

*This will only happen, however, if the National League teams can agree on a new regulation concerning the import players.

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I mean, the legal construction of the NHL TA is one-sided & unbalanced. And $ is close to peanuts.

 

[GeeoffBrown]

Most of top European federations have transfer agreement with the NHL. Either vorky doesn't know about it, or he means that Sweden paved this way on terms that are not beneficial to the rest.

SHL and Allsvenskan are based in Sweden and are two of the biggest leagues but they have players from other countries. And it is certainly easier for NHL teams to sign players from these leagues, than say the KHL

 

[beowulf]

Denmark is not like other Nordic countries. it is more like central european country with no winter sport culture. The only sport they are good at are cycling and badminton. They like football but they suck at it like most of european countries.

Huh? These countries have no winter sports culture?

 

[Pan]

I mean, the legal construction of the NHL TA is one-sided & unbalanced. And $ is close to peanuts.

Why would it be balanced if it was basically the NHL's goodwill? They could have gotten players for free. Yes, it's Hobson's choice, but still a choice.
The KHL didn't want to give away players for "peanuts" and now lets them go for nothing, happily covering those transfers in the media (Demidov). Although knowing the general context of your posts, I will assume that you will say that the KHL made an excellent decision and is in better conditions than the rest.

 

[Fjorden]

2024/2025 has been a great year for danish hockey. -Semifinal in senior wc -qualified for the olympics. - promotion to elite division u20. - promotion to elite division u18

 

[vorky]

Why would it be balanced if it was basically the NHL's goodwill? They could have gotten players for free. Yes, it's Hobson's choice, but still a choice.
The KHL didn't want to give away players for "peanuts" and now lets them go for nothing, happily covering those transfers in the media (Demidov). Although knowing the general context of your posts, I will assume that you will say that the KHL made an excellent decision and is in better conditions than the rest.

Look, the rules should be balanced. All problem begins with article 8.1 of the IIHF International Transfer Regulations, follows by NHL TA. The guys who are behind this, and we know the name of that national federation, should be banned from hockey for life.

 

[Kimota]

it's crazy that these guys used to be Vikings.

 

[Bjornar Moxnes]

Huh? These countries have no winter sports culture?

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Poland and Hungary shouldn't be included... Even Slovenia is really just propped up by their stars.

 

[Pan]

All problem begins with article 8.1 of the IIHF International Transfer Regulations, follows by NHL TA.

It says "All MNAs, their leagues, and clubs must respect all existing and valid Contracts of Players playing in other MNAs or Non-Member Organizations". What exact problem begins with respecting contracts?

 

[Albatros]

it's crazy that these guys used to be Vikings.

Like the English used to be pirates.

 

[vorky]

It says "All MNAs, their leagues, and clubs must respect all existing and valid Contracts of Players playing in other MNAs or Non-Member Organizations". What exact problem begins with respecting contracts?

Bold part.

In context of all rules, European clubs & leagues (under IIHF jurisdiction) have to respect the players´ contracts with NHL clubs (Non-Member Organization). That is OK, I agree. The problem is what is missing .... NHL clubs are not obligated to respect the players´ contracts with European clubs (IIHF jurisdiction). There is no legal reason for that.

The KHL did the same, became a Non-Member Organization ... btw, whoever could do it, SHL, Liiga, DEL... but, someone added that rule/s into legal documents to benefit just ONE LEAGUE - NHL. So, they had to change the definition of Non-Member Organization in a hurry.

Hockey people, meaning from Europe, who were behind this & NHL TA should have never worked in hockey. They have deliberately weakened the legal position of the European hockey or were bribed by someone.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

Most people don't like hockey

 

[Albatros]

NHL clubs are not obligated to respect the players´ contracts with European clubs (IIHF jurisdiction). There is no legal reason for that.

The players, however, are responsible for the contracts that they sign. As a result we have a transfer agreement that compensates the European clubs directly and lets the players off the hook when they sign.

 

[vorky]

The players, however, are responsible for the contracts that they sign. As a result we have a transfer agreement that compensates the European clubs directly and lets the players off the hook when they sign.

Irrelevant. I am talking about something else.

 

[GMR]

There’s something rotten in the state of Denmark.

 

[Albatros]

Irrelevant. I am talking about something else.

You claimed that it benefits the NHL, but especially smaller European clubs can have a good chunk of their budget covered by a single transfer. In Denmark that would be very desirable.

 

[Great99]

No, the Danes do not like hockey.

According to the Danish federal statistical agency, StatBank Denmark, hockey doesn't even crack the top 10 sports with the highest participation rate amongst its population. Soccer is the #1 most popular sport by a large margin. Internationally, they tend to do well in soccer, handball, badminton, and cycling.

The Danish populace has absolutely zero interest in hockey. Last year, they only had 5808 registered hockey players against a population of ~5.8M people. By comparison, Finland has roughly the same sized population, but 10x the number of registered hockey players. Even Latvia, a country with roughly one-third of Denmark's population, has close to twice as many registered hockey players.

Canada should be deeply embarrassed to have been upset by the Danes this week. At least when Canada was upset by Latvia at the WC in 2021, someone in Latvia cared.

Hockey in Denmark are 2 in numbers of fans watching live in the arenas , only soccer have more people

 

[Greatzsky 99]

Stockholm isn't much of a hockey city, sports wise it's mostly football. Also hockey in late spring, when it's starting to get sunny or warm outside, I think is weird to a lot of people. It would make more sense in the winter. Toronto drew a good crowd (I think) when they were here with Willy over the winter months.

well thats a stretch, hockey is defintly 2nd in sthlm, as shown when DIF-AIK competed
for SHL place, when i was a kid hockey was no1, but it was a long time ago.

 

[Greatzsky 99]

this older article says its quite popular, translated from danish

The Ice Hockey World Championship in Herning and Copenhagen is the biggest sporting event ever on Danish soil, and the ice hockey fever that the event and the Danish players have created has also caused the viewing figures on TV to grow explosively compared to both expectations and previous experiences.

The viewer interest culminated on Tuesday, May 15, when Denmark played the last and decisive group match against Latvia – a direct duel for a quarter-final spot. The match was broadcast on TV 2 and TV 2 PLAY and had an average of 519,000 viewers and a viewership share of 36 percent among all Danes.

Since most people watched the last minutes of the match, when Latvia ran away with the victory, the viewing figure was 760,000.

This makes the World Championship match Denmark-Latvia the most watched ice hockey broadcast ever on Danish television. Until yesterday, Denmark's World Cup match against Norway in November 1999 was the most watched ice hockey broadcast with an average of 310,000 viewers for the three periods. In some cases, ice hockey summaries on TV 2 have had more than half a million viewers.

 

[Greatzsky 99]

Thats good

attendance for WC2025

 

[Kimota]

Like the English used to be pirates.

There were pirates at a time when there were still a civilized culture. When the Danes were Vikings, their whole country were like that. Crazy psychos. lol

 

[Eye of Ra]

There were pirates at a time when there were still a civilized culture. When the Danes were Vikings, their whole country were like that. Crazy psychos. lol

Having slaves and colonialism is civilized? Ok buddy.

 

[Kimota]

Having slaves and colonialism is civilized? Ok buddy.

It doesn't mean because you do bad things that you are not civilized. Cause the word "civilized" would not exist.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

Having slaves and colonialism is civilized? Ok buddy.

The derivation and evolution of the terms civil, civilised and civilisation is long and complex, from Latin roots up through the Enlightenment. When you realize the positions of many Enlightenment thinkers regarding slavery and colonialism, you come to see that those f***ers were often full of shit. Said a different way, to the people who started using “civilized” the way we think of it now, many did think those things you reference fit the bill.