Proposal: DeBrusk for Kapanen

[Empoleon8771]

Is this a reasonable basis for a deal? The Penguins have seemingly tired of Kapanen at this point and DeBrusk asked for a trade a little while back. Both are about the same age and make about the same amount of money. Kapanen has been a bit more productive, so I think he might have a tad more value than DeBrusk, but is something around this basis reasonable?

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[Stewie Griffin]

I think bruins would add a pick or something not too big

 

[Cotton]

Is this a reasonable basis for a deal? The Penguins have seemingly tired of Kapanen at this point and DeBrusk asked for a trade a little while back. Both are about the same age and make about the same amount of money. Kapanen has been a bit more productive, so I think he might have a tad more value than DeBrusk, but is something around this basis reasonable?

But why?

 

[Empoleon8771]

But why?

Because Sullivan gets really stupid about some players every now and then. Same thing happened with Ian Cole when he was with the Penguins.

Kapanen really isn't helping his case that much, but Sullivan has obviously had it out for him for a while now. Ever since his visa got delayed before the start of last year, it seemed like Sullivan was incredibly quick to discipline Kapanen for anything.

 

[BB88]

I’d do it from Bruins side

 

[SEALBound]

Bruins say yes, Penguins...I don't know. I say no. I'd rather stick with Kapanen.

 

[UConn126]

Heck I'd throw in a 5th from the Bruins to make it happen. Kapenen is a RW, so they could throw him out there with Marchand and Bergeron and he'd probably look awesome.

 

[TFHockey]

Is this a reasonable basis for a deal? The Penguins have seemingly tired of Kapanen at this point and DeBrusk asked for a trade a little while back. Both are about the same age and make about the same amount of money. Kapanen has been a bit more productive, so I think he might have a tad more value than DeBrusk, but is something around this basis reasonable?

I think the Oilers could use an upgrade at RW. How about something around a Kassian - Kapanen swap?

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

Sold.

Hell, you can even add a 3rd or a 4th on the Bruins end to even it out

 

[Empoleon8771]

I think the Oilers could use an upgrade at RW. How about something around a Kassian - Kapanen swap?

Uh.....no

That would be atrocious for Pittsburgh. Kapanen for DeBrusk makes sense because they're both about the same age, make about the same money and (IMO) have about the same pedigree. Kassian is a borderline cap dump at this point.

 

[AhosDatsyukian]

I can't see why Pittsburgh would even consider this. Kapanen is actually good. DeBrusk... ehh

 

[Shawn Heins 44]

Heck I'd throw in a 5th from the Bruins to make it happen. Kapenen is a RW, so they could throw him out there with Marchand and Bergeron and he'd probably look awesome.

Well we thought the same with Crosby and Malkin. He really has not worked too well with eithr over a longer stretch (he was good towards the end of last seasons with Malkin). He always has a game or two when you can see all the talent and then he seems to fall off the map again for a couple of games. Just really really inconsistent.

 

[jonlin]

Cant see Penguins doing this.

Kapanen 25yrs RFA 2022

44gp

9g

15a

24p

+6

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Debrusk 25yrs RFA 2022

38gp

7g

8a

15p

-3

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Kapanen is a bit cheaper, more productive and play all situations. I see Bruins having to add a 2nd or similar?

 

[Empoleon8771]

Cant see Penguins doing this.

Kapanen 25yrs RFA 2022

44gp

9g

15a

24p

+6

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Debrusk 25yrs RFA 2022

38gp

7g

8a

15p

-3

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Kapanen is a bit cheaper, more productive and play all situations. I see Bruins having to add a 2nd or similar?

Kapanen doesn't play in all situations, he doesn't get PK time for the Penguins and has generally only been used in an offensive role. This isn't saying he can't do it, he obviously showed in Toronto that he could, but he just hasn't been used that way for the Penguins.

With that being said, something like DeBrusk and a 3rd for Kapanen seems reasonable to me, but the Bruins wouldn't have to add anything egregious on top of DeBrusk IMO.

I can't see why Pittsburgh would even consider this. Kapanen is actually good. DeBrusk... ehh

Kapanen's isn't bad, the problem is that he's been wildly inconsistent this year and Sullivan seems to have a grudge with him. Look at Kapanen's production this year, he only has points in 17 of 45 games and over half of his points (13) come in 6 games.

He's not really that great of an analytical player, has stretches where he looks like he's not engaged and not doing much and the Penguins are pretty much exclusively using him in an offensive role. I totally understand why he's in Sullivan's dog house, but Sullivan has had a bone to pick with him ever since he arrived in Pittsburgh.

 

[Extra Texture]

I think the Oilers could use an upgrade at RW. How about something around a Kassian - Kapanen swap?

For Kassian? No.

Yamamoto with a small plus going to Edmonton would be much more like it.

 

[Leafed]

Well we thought the same with Crosby and Malkin. He really has not worked too well with eithr over a longer stretch (he was good towards the end of last seasons with Malkin). He always has a game or two when you can see all the talent and then he seems to fall off the map again for a couple of games. Just really really inconsistent.

And the Leafs thought the same with Matthews and Tavares before that

 

[Jared Dunn]

Well we thought the same with Crosby and Malkin. He really has not worked too well with eithr over a longer stretch (he was good towards the end of last seasons with Malkin). He always has a game or two when you can see all the talent and then he seems to fall off the map again for a couple of games. Just really really inconsistent.

Kapanen is generally terrible with elite players. He was pretty bad on either of the top two lines in Toronto as well, just seems to lack the hockey sense to know where to be on the ice and not a very good passer. He is pretty skilled though and the speed is next level so he can be a really nice 3rd line and PK option

 

[Gurglesons]

I can't see why Pittsburgh would even consider this. Kapanen is actually good. DeBrusk... ehh

Because fans are mad at Kapanen for giving away an OT goal and playing like a middle six tweener like he's paid for.

 

[AhosDatsyukian]

Kapanen's isn't bad, the problem is that he's been wildly inconsistent this year and Sullivan seems to have a grudge with him. Look at Kapanen's production this year, he only has points in 17 of 45 games and over half of his points (13) come in 6 games.

He's not really that great of an analytical player, has stretches where he looks like he's not engaged and not doing much and the Penguins are pretty much exclusively using him in an offensive role. I totally understand why he's in Sullivan's dog house, but Sullivan has had a bone to pick with him ever since he arrived in Pittsburgh.

DeBrusk has those same concerns no? I don't think he's nearly as talented as Kapanen, so with those same concerns I just don't see why Pens would want him. If they were to trade Kapanen which is possible then they could do better I think.

 

[TFHockey]

Uh.....no

That would be atrocious for Pittsburgh. Kapanen for DeBrusk makes sense because they're both about the same age, make about the same money and (IMO) have about the same pedigree. Kassian is a borderline cap dump at this point.

I'd do an add from Edmonton's standpoint because of Kassian's extra contract length, but they make same $$$.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Because fans are mad at Kapanen for giving away an OT goal and playing like a middle six tweener like he's paid for.

I literally didn't even watch the game last night, so no, last night has nothing to do with this.

 

[Beauner]

for as underwhelming as Kapanen has been, I would not even entertain the idea of this trade. No thanks.

 

[Gurglesons]

I'd do an add from Edmonton's standpoint because of Kassian's extra contract length, but they make same $$$.

Makes no sense at all. Kapanen is underperforming and has more points than Kassian in his last two seasons. The add would be a huge prospect.

 

[kanucks25]

Bruins take this and run. I would think they add a pick to even it out.

What are the Pens looking for?

 

[jonlin]

I'd do an add from Edmonton's standpoint because of Kassian's extra contract length, but they make same $$$.

You have to add atleast a 2nd + prospect for someone to take Kassian for free. For kapanen, I`d think that you would have to add a 1st and a GOOD prospect atleast. I still doubt Penguins would do it, as Kapanen is better suited for playoffs than Kassian. Kapanen can actually contribure on the scoresheet.