LeBrun: DeBrincat will most likely be traded, agent has submitted list of preferred destinations

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More big bodies to protect him?lmao who? Larkin? I'm assuming you mean Rasmussen who isn't a fighter. Lot of the current guys on the team wont even be there in a few years

This team will have 2 guys under 6 feet on the rw in the six . Now we'd have debrincat larkin raymond compher top 6 and copp 3rd line with kasper danielson soderblom berggren Lombardi mazur etc... coming up real soon. Were gonna move raymond to keep debrincat in a few years to make room?

This screams of impatience and regret will come. Theres a great chance this team is going nowhere for quite some time. Hoping lou comes out of nowhere and saves us
Perhaps you missed all the grind-first short term free agents Detroit just signed. And if you think anything Yzerman has done screams impatience, I honestly don't know how to respond to that. He's been downright glacial in his approach thus far.

Is Debrincat first on my wish list? No. But if there's no traction on better options and they can swing a reasonable trade for him, I'm perfectly fine with adding a 30+ goal scorer.
 

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Someone asked for a list of roster players available from DET.
I made a list of names and Chiarot was on that list.
No one said he IS THE target, so get this "delusional" "fantasy camp" crap outta here.

A bunch of us memed about it. No one seriously thinks Chiarot is going the other way.

Lighten up and learn to laugh, ffs.
Well it is there is no chance the sens would add Chiarot. The reason they need to move Debrincat is to fill out depth. They have 7 D men on one way deals and Kleven is knocking. He is the last type of player they would be looking to bring in.

Now its fair thats who you mentioned and its not your fault that other fans jumped on the idea of it happening but if they took a few minutes to actually look at the sens situation then they would know its not happening.
 

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More big bodies to protect him?lmao who? Larkin? I'm assuming you mean Rasmussen who isn't a fighter. Lot of the current guys on the team wont even be there in a few years

This team will have 2 guys under 6 feet on the rw in the six . Now we'd have debrincat larkin raymond compher top 6 and copp 3rd line with kasper danielson soderblom berggren Lombardi mazur etc... coming up real soon. Were gonna move raymond to keep debrincat in a few years to make room?

This screams of impatience and regret will come. Theres a great chance this team is going nowhere for quite some time. Hoping lou comes out of nowhere and saves us
They’ve just added guys who are harder to play against like Kostin, Fischer and Compher. It’s not solely about size. It’s about if you’re hard to play against or not. For example, Berggren is a very strong player for his size. He’s not knocked around and can play, and produce in traffic. They also have two more very large Dmen who will be part of their core moving forward.

Look, I think Konecny would be a better fit, but they need goals. So what’s the cost of that? That’s what it comes down to. If the cost makes sense, then it works.

Having a couple of smaller players isn’t the end of the world. Did it effect how strong Ottawa was against the walls and in traffic? Not at all.
 
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Sens fans. Why are we so worried?

Do we not see the value pure rentals get at the deadline? Do we fear cat is worth less than an aging ROR? Foligno? Jake McCabe? Horvat?

Why are we in such a concerned stance. He will get moved. If we retain he will still get moved. Take the 1st and who cares.

Detroit doesn’t need to be our concern. If he wants to not move twice in one year that’s his business. Not our concern.

Just take the best deal and move him now or later.
 

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If Detroit has no interest in a $8M extension and giving up a 1st and 2nd year player with top 6 upside? Yes, they are getting squeezed here.

Ottawa's opinion of DeBrincat doesn't matter nearly as much as Detroit's opinion right now.
Again, if you value those middling players/prospects that much then by all means keep them all and enjoy another 5 years of bottom feeding without getting a glimpse of playoff contention. If that's the thought process, where you prefer a 23yo 3rd liner hoping he's got a bit more in him over an established top scoring winger at a reasonable caphit locked up for his prime, then Yzerman has the wings fanbase locked in under some serious mind bending spell for a franchise that hasn't been competitive for 8 years now. Dude is a wizard alright.
 

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Again, if you value those middling players/prospects that much then by all means keep them all and enjoy another 5 years of bottom feeding without getting a glimpse of playoff contention. If that's the thought process, where you prefer a 23yo 3rd liner hoping he's got a bit more in him over an established top scoring winger at a reasonable caphit locked up for his prime, then Yzerman has the wings fanbase locked in under some serious mind bending spell for a franchise that hasn't been competitive for 8 years now. Dude is a wizard alright.
So... a team that the general consensus is better than the Wings added a 40+ goal scorer. Added a top pairing defenseman at the deadline. And finished what? 6pts ahead of a team that pulled the ripcord and sold off at the deadline? Is a 6 year playoff drought that much better than a 7 years drought? Who is under a spell here?
 
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Perhaps you missed all the grind-first short term free agents Detroit just signed. And if you think anything Yzerman has done screams impatience, I honestly don't know how to respond to that. He's been downright glacial in his approach thus far.

Is Debrincat first on my wish list? No. But if there's no traction on better options and they can swing a reasonable trade for him, I'm perfectly fine with adding a 30+ goal scorer.
Trust me I didnt miss it, wanted some guys who'd actually bring something at the trade deadline. If you actually believe those signings + debrincat will lead us anywhere close to the playoffs i dont know what to tell you

Have you seen our conference? We have 0% chance next season of a spot. If there's no traction on better options we wait. See what comes available next year wait and see how kasper raymond berggren etc perform. Dont just jump on the 1st guy available cause hes a local kid

Guess that's where we differ cause I'm not cool with adding a 5'7 forward with 8.5 cap hit longterm who's popping 30 goals
 

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They’ve just added guys who are harder to play against like Kostin, Fischer and Compher. It’s not solely about size. It’s about if you’re hard to play against or not. For example, Berggren is a very strong player for his size. He’s not knocked around and can play, and produce in traffic. They also have two more very large Dmen who will be part of their core moving forward.

Look, I think Konecny would be a better fit, but they need goals. So what’s the cost of that? That’s what it comes down to. If the cost makes sense, then it works.

Having a couple of smaller players isn’t the end of the world. Did it effect how strong Ottawa was against the walls and in traffic? Not at all.
Let's not compare Ottawa's skilled forwards over ours . Miles ahead of us atm and didny have norris either

All fine adding those hard working forwards but it won't result in wins. Would debrincat score 30? Sure ,still wont get us in and still dont think hes worth the money he wants

Fans are just refusing to wait. Most of our 1sts under yzerman haven't arrived yet among many other prospects . Fans are just impatient
 

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Sounds like Ottawa needs tomove Debrincat so that Tarasenko can sign.

I'm sure Yzerman knows this and I wonder if thats driving the price down on Debrincat (asset wise not contract wise). I think Debrincat has done his flirting with other teams and realised he isnt getting the huge pay day, now it comes down to dealing between the GMs

The amount of smoke around this now post draft, and the Tarasenko aspect makes me think this deal gets done here any time
 

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Let's not compare Ottawa's skilled forwards over ours . Miles ahead of us atm and didny have norris either

All fine adding those hard working forwards but it won't result in wins. Would debrincat score 30? Sure ,still wont get us in and still dont think hes worth the money he wants

Fans are just refusing to wait. Most of our 1sts under yzerman haven't arrived yet among many other prospects . Fans are just impatient
You're assuming it's binary. Either we wait for all the prospects or we blow up the rebuild for short term success.

Why can't Detroit add a 30+ goal scorer now, push for a playoff spot while waiting for the rest of the kids, and then fully contend in another few years once the prospects begin to hit their stride?

If the price ends up being multiple first rounders and key prospects, I'll join you with pitchforks. But I think they'll add Debrincat cheaply and still be fine long term.
 
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So... a team that the general consensus is better than the Wings added a 40+ goal scorer. Added a top pairing defenseman at the deadline. And finished what? 6pts ahead of a team that pulled the ripcord and sold off at the deadline? Is a 6 year playoff drought that much better than a 7 years drought? Who is under a spell here?
Yep, that team was playing there 3rd and 5th goalie depth mostly the last 2 months
 
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You're assuming it's binary. Either we wait for all the prospects or we blow up the rebuild for short term success.

Why can't Detroit add a 30+ goal scorer now, push for a playoff spot while waiting for the rest of the kids, and then fully contend in another few years once the prospects begin to hit their stride?

If the price ends up being multiple first rounders and key prospects, I'll join you with pitchforks. But I think they'll add Debrincat cheaply and still be fine long term.
Were not going anywhere until the prospects show up and produce it's quite simple. If they're all busts were done for ,signing debrincat and these bottom 6 guys won't help us ever get a Stanley cup

Were not pushing for playoffs with debrincat now you need to get that out of your head,setting yourself up for disappointment. Were not even ahead of ottawa and buff and they missed out

Doubt itll be cheat got 0 interest moving a 2024 1st and I'd prefer to keep berggren again debrincat isnt worth 8.5 longterm
Seider and possibly would be joining them as longterm redwings. Edvinsson,kasper etc... would prob look to join that group before those 8 yrs are done
 

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Sounds like Ottawa needs tomove Debrincat so that Tarasenko can sign.

I'm sure Yzerman knows this and I wonder if thats driving the price down on Debrincat (asset wise not contract wise). I think Debrincat has done his flirting with other teams and realised he isnt getting the huge pay day, now it comes down to dealing between the GMs

The amount of smoke around this now post draft, and the Tarasenko aspect makes me think this deal gets done here any time

I mean technically couldn't Ottawa sign Tarasenko regardless and then worry about getting rid of guys? Isn't that what teams like Toronto and Tampa and Vegas do? Go into the off season over the cap and then find sneaky but legal ways to get around it by camp?
 

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Let's not compare Ottawa's skilled forwards over ours . Miles ahead of us atm and didny have norris either

All fine adding those hard working forwards but it won't result in wins. Would debrincat score 30? Sure ,still wont get us in and still dont think hes worth the money he wants

Fans are just refusing to wait. Most of our 1sts under yzerman haven't arrived yet among many other prospects . Fans are just impatient
So what is it you’re after here?? What’s your fundamental issue against adding a player this age, who can score goals?? Is it you want them to keep tanking? Is it you want them to just play the kids? What’s the end goal, as you see it?
 

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Were not going anywhere until the prospects show up and produce it's quite simple. If they're all busts were done for ,signing debrincat and these bottom 6 guys won't help us ever get a Stanley cup

Were not pushing for playoffs with debrincat now you need to get that out of your head,setting yourself up for disappointment. Were not even ahead of ottawa and buff and they missed out

Doubt itll be cheat got 0 interest moving a 2024 1st and I'd prefer to keep berggren again debrincat isnt worth 8.5 longterm
Seider and possibly would be joining them as longterm redwings. Edvinsson,kasper etc... would prob look to join that group before those 8 yrs are done
The bottom 6 guys will be replaced by significantly better players as the prospects become ready. In 3 years Debrincat will be 28, with Edvinsson, Kasper, and Mazur already in the lineup and Danielson, Wallinder, and Johansson either ready to join or knocking on the door.

I'm not saying that one signing is magical. But signing one guy who's 25 and will still be a very good player when the kids are ready to roll is a GOOD thing.
 

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The bottom 6 guys will be replaced by significantly better players as the prospects become ready. In 3 years Debrincat will be 28, with Edvinsson, Kasper, and Mazur already in the lineup and Danielson, Wallinder, and Johansson either ready to join or knocking on the door.

I'm not saying that one signing is magical. But signing one guy who's 25 and will still be a very good player when the kids are ready to roll is a GOOD thing.
Debrincat isn't even high on my list it's just that I think (and also believe) Yzerman knows he can get him for cheap. I fully expect him to be setting a hard line in the sand and waiting for dorion to cave.
 
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Welcome to the definition of 30-30 guy.
Well not to nitpick...What kinda numbers are we looking at from the Cat if he dons the Winged Wheel?

This past season (while fine) were not on par while in the Windy City...For all we know he'll continue this trend if he returns home.
 

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Well not to nitpick...What kinda numbers are we looking at from the Cat if he dons the Winged Wheel?

This past season (while fine) were not on par while in the Windy City...For all we know he'll continue this trend if he returns home.
That is the big question.

As an Ottawa fan not super high on him in the context of a big long term deal with our team structure, I think he had a lot working against him this year, tons of posts, and will comfortably be a 30 goal guy. His line mates this year were shit.
 

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Well not to nitpick...What kinda numbers are we looking at from the Cat if he dons the Winged Wheel?

This past season (while fine) were not on par while in the Windy City...For all we know he'll continue this trend if he returns home.
If he can't score in Ottawa, I'm not sure why anyone expects much more in Detroit. Him being sold as a 40+ goal guy is pure fantasy in Detroit.
 

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So... a team that the general consensus is better than the Wings added a 40+ goal scorer. Added a top pairing defenseman at the deadline. And finished what? 6pts ahead of a team that pulled the ripcord and sold off at the deadline? Is a 6 year playoff drought that much better than a 7 years drought? Who is under a spell here?
Right, lets completely ignore the numerous significant injuries all through out the lineup all year long.. Let's continue the disingenuous arguments, might as well double down on that at this point. Unlike the Wings, we're actively trying to get better, not worse. Selling off last tdl and this seasons FA signing has made your team a lock for another basement finish, with no end in sight. Must be exciting closing in on Buffalo's record. But hey, in saint Yzerman we trust, he's beyond reproach I guess.
 

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The bottom 6 guys will be replaced by significantly better players as the prospects become ready. In 3 years Debrincat will be 28, with Edvinsson, Kasper, and Mazur already in the lineup and Danielson, Wallinder, and Johansson either ready to join or knocking on the door.

I'm not saying that one signing is magical. But signing one guy who's 25 and will still be a very good player when the kids are ready to roll is a GOOD thing.
If those guys are only up for bottom 6 roles were f***ed. Cant see us ever ever winning a cup with 4/6 guys in the top 6 being larkin compher(hes a 3c) and 2 guys under 6 feet on the right side

Copp will be an expensive 5.6 3rd liner as well

That's fine I dont think debrincat should be that guy, dont think hes worth the money. Much rather keep taking shots at doing like buff did with thompson and target a byfield lafraniere somehow whos not working out elsewhere atm (I know lot easier said than done )

I think we'll highly regret debrincat and we'll never win anything close to a cup with that core unless he gets supplanted by the kids coming and ends up being a very expensive 3rd liner

Gladly come here and say I was wrong but I dont think itll happen. Nowhere close to a playoff spot so if yzerman's smart he won't touch any of the 2024 1sts with bruins being a question mark

If he can't score in Ottawa, I'm not sure why anyone expects much more in Detroit. Him being sold as a 40+ goal guy is pure fantasy in Detroit.
Lmao ya definetly not happening here

I wouldn't give him more than 7-7.5 which he wont accept and even that I think will cost too much for a 28-32 guy when kubalik can get 20 at 2.5 maybe spring 20 at 2 per if were lucky
 
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