Proposal: DeBrincat to New Jersey

[Stephen Gionta]

To Chicago:
Ty Smith
Alexander Holtz
2023 1st round pick (Top 5 protected, slides to unprotected 2024 if in the top 5)

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[dahrougem2]

Why does Chicago do this?

 

[Mrfenn92]

Hawks say no thank you

 

[Stephen Gionta]

Why does Chicago do this?

DeBrincat already 24.

Chicago going full rebuild (tank for Bedard/Michkov) and adding two assets closer in age centered around Dach.

DeBrincat keeps Chicago in mediocrity. Which is the worst recipe for success. (Hawks of all teams should know this. See 2004-2007 standings, then see 2010-2015 cup winners)

 

[BKarchitect]

Rightly or wrongly the Hawks invested a hell of a lot of their future on Seth Jones who is 27. As a physically gifted and athletic defender he should have another 5 years of prime left. I don’t see the Hawks dealing their one core forward in DeBrincat who also fits into that timeline. I don’t think the Hawks are about to tear down to the studs. Maybe they should but my guess is they are going to attempt to rebuild quickly around Jones, DeBrincat, Dach and Reichel.

 

[Mrfenn92]

Already 24? Love that. Going downhill fast.

 

[CraigsList]

Already 24? Love that. Going downhill fast.

25 is a terrible age

 

[Mrfenn92]

25 is a terrible age

Agreed basically time to retire

 

[dahrougem2]

DeBrincat already 24.

Chicago going full rebuild (tank for Bedard/Michkov) and adding two assets closer in age centered around Dach.

DeBrincat keeps Chicago in mediocrity. Which is the worst recipe for success. (Hawks of all teams should know this. See 2004-2007 standings, then see 2010-2015 cup winners)

Chicago isn't going to tank, though. Nor would they out-tank Arizona.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

DeBrincat already 24.

Chicago going full rebuild (tank for Bedard/Michkov) and adding two assets closer in age centered around Dach.

DeBrincat keeps Chicago in mediocrity. Which is the worst recipe for success. (Hawks of all teams should know this. See 2004-2007 standings, then see 2010-2015 cup winners)

Interesting choice of words

 

[Stephen Gionta]

Rightly or wrongly the Hawks invested a hell of a lot of their future on Seth Jones who is 27. As a physically gifted and athletic defender he should have another 5 years of prime left. I don’t see the Hawks dealing their one core forward in DeBrincat who also fits into that timeline. I don’t think the Hawks are about to tear down to the studs. Maybe they should but my guess is they are going to attempt to rebuild quickly around Jones, DeBrincat, Dach and Reichel.

Fair, but the Blackhawks will win nothing with that core barring a 2023 lottery win

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

DeBrincat already 24.

/HF

 

[SpeakingOfTheDevils]

DeBrincat already 24.

Chicago going full rebuild (tank for Bedard/Michkov) and adding two assets closer in age centered around Dach.

DeBrincat keeps Chicago in mediocrity. Which is the worst recipe for success. (Hawks of all teams should know this. See 2004-2007 standings, then see 2010-2015 cup winners)

Did you miss the Seth Jones acquisition and extension? The Hawks aren’t making personnel decisions based on age and “timeline.”

DeBrincat being 24 simply means that they’ll be leaning on him to produce for the duration of the Jones deal. They’ll certainly be looking to compete—whether or not that pans out is a different conversation.

 

[devils29]

Devils don’t need to get smaller. Debrincat obvs best player in the deal/asset do Chicago says no. But Holtz is not chop liver and 2022 draft is actually looking pretty loaded. No need for either team to do this at all

 

[cwede]

at least the value is fair - Holtz and top-ten pick plus Bahl,
but as noted above, DeBrincat is face of Hawks next core,
and Jones acquisition(s) indicate they're not thinking they're at start of long thorough rebuild

and re Devils, well this Ranger fan would be glad to see them punt away Holtz and another top-10 guy,
even tho DeBrincat might be a scary trigger man along side Hughes

 

[CupSeeker]

Why does Chicago do this?

They don't

 

[CupSeeker]

Fair, but the Blackhawks will win nothing with that core barring a 2023 lottery win

You want Debrincat, the deal starts with Hischier.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

To Chicago:
2022 1st round pick (Top 2 Protected) - Pick would currently be 6th overall
Alexander Holtz
Kevin Bahl

Doubt Debrincat is on the market, And if he is Yzerman could blow away your offer to bring him home to Detroit.

 

[Stephen Gionta]

Doubt Debrincat is on the market, And if he is Yzerman could blow away your offer to bring him home to Detroit.

Let's see it

 

[Drake1588]

DeBrincat already 24.

Chicago going full rebuild (tank for Bedard/Michkov) and adding two assets closer in age centered around Dach.

DeBrincat keeps Chicago in mediocrity. Which is the worst recipe for success. (Hawks of all teams should know this. See 2004-2007 standings, then see 2010-2015 cup winners)

But that isn't true. Chicago is not going full rebuild. A team going full rebuild doesn't make the move that it did for Jones.

You may think they should go full rebuild, but they aren't in fact doing this. So any trade proposal for a good young player like Debrincat would need to answer the question of why they'd choose to move to move him for futures, while acknowledging that they aren't acting like a rebuilding team.

 

[Mandalorian]

You want Debrincat, the deal starts with Hischier.

Doubtful, Eichel trade biggest piece was Peyton Krebs.

Most you could get from New Jersey is probably something like.

Debrincat for 1st(top 10 protected)+ Holtz + Johnsson.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Let's see it

Zadina+Hronek+2022 1st round pick top 10+2023 2nd round pick is just as good as your offer maybe more

 

[Mandalorian]

Doubt Debrincat is on the market, And if he is Yzerman could blow away your offer to bring him home to Detroit.

Yes, 1st+Edvisson+Zadina would beat that offer, I agree.

 

[Mandalorian]

Zadina+Hronek+2022 1st round pick top 10+2023 2nd round pick is just as good as your offer maybe more

Or this.

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

DeBrincat could possibly be available. There have been reports from the Athletic Hawks beat that the Hawks brass doesn't view DeBrincat as worth much more than his current contract. Given that his QO is worth $9M, he could get moved.