Dean Lombardi Book

[Stimpythecat]

Thanks for letting us know.

even if I had posted it, a moderator would have deleted it long before you saw it.

I believe it split the locker room in which case, he had to go.

 

[Maynard]

even if I had posted it, a moderator would have deleted it long before you saw it.

I believe it split the locker room in which case, he had to go.

I hear you, but I have different information. Unfortunately I can’t post it because it would blow everyone’s mind so much that it would be like matter colliding with anti-matter and the universe would implode. So I can’t post what I know, I can only post that I know it.

 

[Lt Dan]

I hear you, but I have different information. Unfortunately I can’t post it because it would blow everyone’s mind so much that it would be like matter colliding with anti-matter and the universe would implode. So I can’t post what I know, I can only post that I know it.

I , for one, am very proud of you for being so responsible with such potentially dangerous information.
The last thing we need is to be over run by Welsh Corgis

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

If you hold a rumored Patches trade against Blake, you had better hold swings-and-misses on Chara, Briere, B. Richards, Kovy 1.0, and many more against DL, too.

Sometimes the best signings/trades are the ones you don't make, but that doesn't mean they weren't attempted.

 

[King'sPawn]

If you hold a rumored Patches trade against Blake, you had better hold swings-and-misses on Chara, Briere, B. Richards, Kovy 1.0, and many more against DL, too.

Sometimes the best signings/trades are the ones you don't make, but that doesn't mean they weren't attempted.

I agree and I do.

 

[KINGS17]

If you hold a rumored Patches trade against Blake, you had better hold swings-and-misses on Chara, Briere, B. Richards, Kovy 1.0, and many more against DL, too.

Sometimes the best signings/trades are the ones you don't make, but that doesn't mean they weren't attempted.

I believe Dean sabotaged Kovy 1.0.

 

[bland]

I believe Dean sabotaged Kovy 1.0.

Most definitely. That was all Lieweke, Lombardi used it as practice.

 

[BigKing]

If you hold a rumored Patches trade against Blake, you had better hold swings-and-misses on Chara, Briere, B. Richards, Kovy 1.0, and many more against DL, too.

Sometimes the best signings/trades are the ones you don't make, but that doesn't mean they weren't attempted.

Which is what I am saying. Chara was a beast for a long time though so--while it obviously changes history--making a run at him is not a bad call.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Also came close to trading Dustin Brown for Rick Nash as well at the time the Jeff Carter trade was consummated. Now imagine how different the course of history would have changed for the Kings had that deal taken place. It was Tim Leiweke who assured Brown that the team will not trade him, and he went on an insane scoring pace that ran through the 2012 playoffs.

 

[kingsboy11]

Also came close to trading Dustin Brown for Rick Nash as well at the time the Jeff Carter trade was consummated. Now imagine how different the course of history would have changed for the Kings had that deal taken place. It was Tim Leiweke who assured Brown that the team will not trade him, and he went on an insane scoring pace that ran through the 2012 playoffs.

Brownie just wanted to make sure

 

[Axl Rhoadz]

Also came close to trading Dustin Brown for Rick Nash as well at the time the Jeff Carter trade was consummated.

I don't remember ever hearing this....certainly remember Brown being on the hot seat as he was playing like utter dogshit prior to the trade rumor getting squashed, but don't remember the Nash connection.

 

[All The Kings Men]

I also can't post some of the the things I know and many of the things I don't know.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

I don't remember ever hearing this....certainly remember Brown being on the hot seat as he was playing like utter dogshit prior to the trade rumor getting squashed, but don't remember the Nash connection.

I think it was Bob McKenzie (or Friedman) who mentioned it around the trade deadline when Brown's name was out there, as well as Rick Nash. Found this blurb of the Kings' interest in Nash at the 2012 trade deadline.

Kings feel rewards outweighed risks in Carter deal

Lombardi and the Kings were reported to be contenders to land Columbus winger Rick Nash. But Lombardi said that "(Columbus GM) Scotty (Howson) never told me if we were on the list or off the list."

Asked if getting Nash was a realistic possibility, Lombardi said, "I don't know."

Dustin Brown remains a cornerstone for Kings

 

[bland]

I don't remember ever hearing this....certainly remember Brown being on the hot seat as he was playing like utter dogshit prior to the trade rumor getting squashed, but don't remember the Nash connection.

Yup, it was an expansion of the Carter deal, essentially adding Brown and Bernier for Nash, but Nash wouldn't waive his NTC for the Kings.

 

[Anguyen92]

Obviously, it's for the best that we didn't trade Brown or even Bernier since the two parts of what we got for him we traded to Blue Jackets to get Gaborik anyway.

Edit: Oh wait, after doing a bit of digging, the pick we got for trading Scrivens (who we get from the Bernier trade) went to Columbus as well to get Gaborik. Holy crap, so in a weird way, we traded Bernier in 2013 to get Gaborik in 2014, one for one, basically.

 

[KINGS17]

Dean made enough right moves for the Kings to make it to the Western Conference Final three years in a row, and win two Stanley Cups.

That makes him, bar none, the best GM in the Pacific Division over the last 20+ years.

 

[Lt Dan]

I don't remember ever hearing this....certainly remember Brown being on the hot seat as he was playing like utter dogshit prior to the trade rumor getting squashed, but don't remember the Nash connection.

It's true

At one point the trade was going to be Nash and Carter coming to LA for Johnson, the first, Brown and Bernier

 

[Lt Dan]

I also can't post some of the the things I know and many of the things I don't know.

Throw us a bone and post something that you don't know

 

[RaymondReddington]

If a GM is doing his job, isn't he considering deals on an almost daily or weekly basis?
If so, there should be a very long list of players/draft picks they "passed" on, 99+% of which we would never hear about.

 

[BigKing]

I also can't post some of the the things I know and many of the things I don't know.

I try to exclusively post only the things I don't know. Makes things much easier.

 

[KINGS17]

It's true

At one point the trade was going to be Nash and Carter coming to LA for Johnson, the first, Brown and Bernier

It probably still would have worked out in 2012.

 

[KINGS17]

I try to exclusively post only the things I don't know. Makes things much easier.

I do commentary, not hard news.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

It probably still would have worked out in 2012.

I don't think Rick Nash would have obliterated Henrik Sedin, or get into the heads of the Blues and Coyotes like Brown did.

Brown was tied for the playoff lead in goals and points. He wasn't some replaceable spare part in that run.

 

[Rorschach]

I don't remember ever hearing this....certainly remember Brown being on the hot seat as he was playing like utter dogshit prior to the trade rumor getting squashed, but don't remember the Nash connection.

I remember in a DL interview, words from DL himself, that at the time he wanted to acquire as much elite scoring as possible from Columbus due to both the Kings needs and the lack of available scoring from the rest of the league. Columbus replied that Carter could be available and while they were negotiating that fairly well, Lombardi asked for Nash too and the cost.

Despite how well Carter wound up fitting in, Lombardi as a former Philly insider still considered Carter a somewhat flawed player, but should fit in with the Richards' Kings. However, DL felt Nash was a perfect DL-style player in that he was big and played big. I don't remember DL mentioning who offered, just that he asked for Nash and was told "no" right away so the negotiations didn't go much further on that front.

 

[Herby]

One thing that isn't brought up a lot is that Lombardi deserves a lot of credit for never trading Quick. The team was woefully short on offensive talent even in the years leading up to 2012 and they had a goalie that DL had drafted in round 1 and another guy from the previous regime, the simple thing to do would have been to say Bernier was our guy and trade Quick while his value was growing. I remember typing on this board that I would have traded Quick for Carter around 2010, boy would that have been a mistake. The Kings had great teams in 2012-2014 but it's hard to imagine them winning much with Bernier.

The Richards thing, would just love to know the true reasoning as to why he was brought back. I remember watching those games in Chicago in 2014 and it was so ugly to watch it was beyond being mad at Richards or blaming him, it wasn't his fault, he was just late stage Ryan Smyth out there. It wasn't that he didn't know what to do, he still had game sense but he was just completely done physically as an NHL player. Most of the blame falls on Sutter for even playing him as he had zero business being on the ice for any team, much less one trying to win a cup. My guess is that his personal like of the guy himself coupled with how he previously played blinded what was right before him ( we saw similar stuff with Lucic and Smyth) and that was ultimately largely what doomed DL, inability to put professional ahead of personal. The ending also deserves some discussion, because the Kings botched it. Not only did they go after MR's money for something so trivial, they also let stuff be told in the media, specifically social media that was ridiculous. The Kings made a horrific decision the year before and then tried getting out of it on a technicality, I criticized some things Lombardi did hockey releated, but that was hockey related, this was not and I felt it was probably the biggest black eye moment for that regime.