GDT: Deadwings @ Hawks, 6 Nov 2024, 7 PM CT

[shakes the clown]

Players and coaches do not tank. This just beyond stupid. What if they finished dead last in 2023 and picked second?

We'll never know because they didn't finish last. They finished second to last and picked second to last. The team that finished last tanked much better than us including the example I gave above. I understand players and coaches don't tank, but GM's sure do and they control the roster.

Hawks have screwed up the tank 2 years in a row including the Bedard draft year. Only reason we got Bedard is because we got lucky with ping pong balls.

Hawks need to tank correctly and get the most chances possible at that #1 pick.

Lukes coaching record is going to follow him to his next interview, and every one after that. He's not going to intentionally lose games.

No doodoo Sherlock. GMs are the ones in charge of tanking.

 

[belfour30]

Time to give up on a 19 year old point per game player for sure

I gotta stop coming to this board so much

He's not a pt per game player. He has played 82 games in the NHL and has 73 pts.
25+48.

He was supposed to be walking 40 goal scorer and push 60 a few times and he's been anything but that.

He has had about the first 82 games I would have expected but he's been more of an elite playmaker than elite goal scorer. He was supposed to be both.

For reference, Kaner was 21+51=72 in his first 82 games.

Bedard has been around what I expected for his first 82 points wise, but it has been more assists than goals and that has been surprising.

 

[Callidusblackhawk]

We'll never know because they didn't finish last. They finished second to last and picked second to last. The team that finished last tanked much better than us including the example I gave above. I understand players and coaches don't tank, but GM's sure do and they control the roster.

Hawks have screwed up the tank 2 years in a row including the Bedard draft year. Only reason we got Bedard is because we got lucky with ping pong balls.

Hawks need to tank correctly and get the most chances possible at that #1 pick.



No doodoo Sherlock. GMs are the ones in charge of tanking.

This is so f***ing asinine lmfao. Come the f*** on man they screwed up the tank the year they picked FIRST OVERALL!?!?!?!??

 

[Muffinalt]

He's not a pt per game player. He has played 82 games in the NHL and has 73 pts.
25+48.

He was supposed to be walking 40 goal scorer and push 60 a few times and he's been anything but that.

He has had about the first 82 games I would have expected but he's been more of an elite playmaker than elite goal scorer. He was supposed to be both.

For reference, Kaner was 21+51=72 in his first 82 games.

Bedard has been around what I expected for his first 82 points wise, but it has been more assists than goals and that has been surprising.

Wow that wouldve been quite the feat in just 1.25 seasons!

 

[belfour30]

Wow that wouldve been quite the feat in just 1.25 seasons!

I mean that type of talent.

 

[Muffinalt]

I mean that type of talent.

You see why that logic is ridiculous right?

 

[Hawkaholic]

He's not a pt per game player. He has played 82 games in the NHL and has 73 pts.
25+48.

He was supposed to be walking 40 goal scorer and push 60 a few times and he's been anything but that.

He has had about the first 82 games I would have expected but he's been more of an elite playmaker than elite goal scorer. He was supposed to be both.

For reference, Kaner was 21+51=72 in his first 82 games.

Bedard has been around what I expected for his first 82 points wise, but it has been more assists than goals and that has been surprising.

Your expectations were far too high. This is the NHL, not the AHL, or the CHL. He's shooting against the best goalies in the world, as an 18/19 year old lol

 

[shakes the clown]

This is so f***ing asinine lmfao. Come the f*** on man they screwed up the tank the year they picked FIRST OVERALL!?!?!?!??

yes, just cause they got lucky with the ping balls doesn't negate that they royally screwed up the tank that year. Did I imagine them winning a game at the end of the year to finish with the 3rd best odds for #1 pick?

last year all the dummies were saying, it's no big deal taht we finished 2nd to last, we got the #1 pick the year before from the 3 spot. Let's just go do that again. Morons.

A successful tank is defined by one thing and one thing only, finishing dead last and assuring yourself the greatest odds of getting #1.

So yea, the Bedard draft year was a tremendous fail by the organization from a tanking perspective. And taht fail extended the next year when they couldn't do it again for Celebrini.


Next you're gonna tell me that the Bulls successfully tanked for Derek Rose the year they finished with less than 2% chance at the #1 pick but got super lucky with the ping pong balls.

 

[GIADF]

I expected more than 25 goals after his first 82 games.

I would have guessed 32-37 if you asked me before game 1 last year…. So yeah, 25 with his shooting % pretty disappointing for various reasons.

That said I greatly underestimated his playmaking ability prior to see him on NHL ice so there is some good to offset the bad.

 

[belfour30]

I expected more than 25 goals after his first 82 games.

I would have guessed 32-37 if you asked me before game 1 last year…. So yeah, 25 with his shooting % and how few shot attempts he has per game is pretty disappointing for various reasons.

That said I greatly underestimated his playmaking ability prior to see him on NHL ice so there is some good to offset the bad.

If he scored 73 pts I expected 35+ goals from him leading into last season.

 

[ChiHawks10]

He has virtually identical numbers to Kane through their first 82 games, and some in here are complaining about him. Never change HF Hawks.

Kid is on pace with the greatest American-born player to ever play the game, and a first ballot HoFer, and one of the best offensive talents of the last 30 years, and people are actually disappointed.

GTFO of here. Lol.

 

[GIADF]

Bedard was way more hyped than Kane, specifically his shot.

 

[Giovi]

I thought they screwed up by not finishing dead last. There were opportunities to do that and the Hawks passed. I remember a game vs San Jose where San Jose gave the net to some kid making his NHL debut and Hawks responded with Marazek. That's what I'm talking about.

No doodoo Sherlock. GMs are the ones in charge of tanking.

So in one post you say the Hawks' tank was hurt by starting Mrazek in a particular game. That decision was, is, and always will be the job of the coach. In another you say you know that coaches don't tank.

So what you're saying is that the GM should be overriding the coach's authority and deciding who starts in games? Because your argument makes no sense otherwise.