DCox twitter: Leafs offer for Luongo at last draft

[Guy Boucher]

What Cox personally thinks Luongo is worth and whatever offer Burke made are 2 different things. I am glad Burke was fired even if he was only contemplating a trade for Luongo at any price. I don't want that contract for Scrivens straight up.

He said "there's no team willing to pay that price". As Leafs are not willing to pay that price nor are other teams willing to pay comparable value.

 

[sangreale]

Go look at the threads from that time period. Everyone and their mother would have traded Kadri for Luongo. Anyone saying otherwise right now is being disingenuous.

That sir is incorrect. I do not and did not want Luongo at any price once the new CBA was in place. AND .... I was not alone in that!

 

[sangreale]

He said "there's no team willing to pay that price". As Leafs are not willing to pay that price nor are other teams willing to pay comparable value.

Not clear to me how Cox's opinion on Luongo's worth would contradict the information that the Leafs had that 'wacko' proposal on the table. Or did I misread what was posted?

 

[Drugstorecowboi]

Reading what the Canucks wanted - I'd rather trade Kessel, Lupul and/or JVR over Kadri. No way I move Frattin & Kadri.

A little bit off topic - but I really hope/wish we eventually move Grabs and Kuli for something special. I might sound crazy to some BUDS fans but I rather Keep CMAC at this point... He has great chemistry with Kadri....and Kadri is a piece of the core going forward. Grabs/Kuli no longer fit into "long term plans".

 

[Guy Boucher]

Not clear to me how Cox's opinion on Luongo's worth would contradict the information that the Leafs had that 'wacko' proposal on the table. Or did I misread what was posted?

It's not his opinion. He stated as fact thatno team is willing to pay that price. He also tweeted: "Can see why VAN hoped to get Kadri for Luongo. Can see why Leafs said no bloody chance."

Now he's saying otherwise.

 

[TheBigThree]

I wonder if nonis would have caved and got luo during the summer. Burke got fired presumably because he said he wouldn't do a trade for luongo and went against mlse.

 

[mix1home]

Burkites keep saying this and its mind-boggling.


1. Burke and Gillis were rumored to have a deal all but done - only required the signing of new CBA to make it official.
2. Burke was fired 4 days before the new CBA was officially signed.
3. Nonis is hired and both he+management have preached nothing but patience.

Assuredly if Burke was fired because he didn't trade for Luongo - don't you think his second in command would have been pressured a million times over to do it? Don't you think Bell/Rogers would have found someone/anyone other than NONIS to do the trade if he was unwilling?

Nothing could be further from the truth.
1. Burke was AGAINST those retirement contracts and thanks to him they are the thing of the past.
2. He was so vocal about them that you can see guy hated those. Now he turns around and trade for one? Impossible.
3. George Cope himself said that Bell wanted Leafs and Hubs to WIN NOW as it would increase ratings of channels and content Bell owns. It was clearly Bell initiative to trade for Lou and Burke clearly said NO as he would be one looking bad if this trade to happen. All right?
4. Management fired Burke in spite, not their guy, egos struggles, heated arguments, dont mess with my team, it's not yours, but ours team, who knows what, cooled down, let Nonis to convince them to wait and see what we have with our goalies.

 

[TheSilencer]

Worth noting at June draft Canucks could've had Kadri, Bozak and a pick for Luongo. Got greedy. Now have lost as many as have won.

Canucks were looking for something more like Gardiner, Frattin, 1st round pick and another piece. Felt could demand that from weak Leafs.

To both ideas.

 

[TheMadHatTrick]

Worth noting at June draft Canucks could've had Kadri, Bozak and a pick for Luongo. Got greedy. Now have lost as many as have won.

Canucks were looking for something more like Gardiner, Frattin, 1st round pick and another piece. Felt could demand that from weak Leafs.

Good, I hate Mike Gillis.

 

[Avec Fromage*]

A lot of Leaf fans were advocating a Bozak+Kadri trade for Luo. How quickly things change. Thank Gillis for being so greedy that nothing materialized.

 

[Willchel Marlynder]

That sir is incorrect. I do not and did not want Luongo at any price once the new CBA was in place. AND .... I was not alone in that!

Ya me either but A LOT of leaf fans did. Good thing they kept him and good thing he's making them eat crow.

 

[VO5]

Worth noting at June draft Canucks could've had Kadri, Bozak and a pick for Luongo. Got greedy. Now have lost as many as have won.

Canucks were looking for something more like Gardiner, Frattin, 1st round pick and another piece. Felt could demand that from weak Leafs.

This. Exactly why I dislike Gillis and his demeanor. He comes off as if he built some grand empire... just relax and smell the roses Gillis.

I heard this rumor from a buddy right around when Burke was fired... Im glad Burke is a stubborn $%$tard. We still have a long road to go but that move could have potentially been another Kessel esque.

 

[Confucius]

Oh man, how horrible would that be, Leafs fans would burn down the ACC if Kadri played like the way he is playing for the Canucks, this guy is a star in the making. I wouldn;t trade him straight up for Luongo, never mind trading him. He would be one of the last players I would personally like being traded.

Bozak is also playing quite well, playing solid defensively and putting up decent numbers.

The trade would have easily killed us in the long-run.

And Gillis was looking for more? GTFO

I wouldn't sign Luongo to a 9 year 50 million dollar contract if he was a U F A. What's that tell you about his worth in actually getting any player in a trade.

 

[shakes]

If Burke was fired for that reason, Leafs would've already traded for Luongo by now under Nonis. And if Leafs ownership wanted to make that trade, they wouldn't hire Nonis without finding out if about his view on this trade or his 'Let me do my job' mentality that you claim he has. And to be honest, I don't think anyone would claim Nonis to be such a guy. Anyone will tell you that it was Burke and not Nonis who had the "Let me do my job" mentality.

What makes logical sense is that: Burke had a deal in place for Luongo during lockout (hence the rumors). That didn't go well with Leafs ownership (him having burned us already once on Kessel deal), and that was the primary reason he was fired. That too, just before season started so as to not allow him to make the trade official. They found a more patient guy in Nonis who wasn't willing to take that big of a risk. And that is why, we are where we are.

It's amazing how much distance Burke fans will go, to prove that he was not at fault.

So which SPECULATION is correct? Yours or theirs? Or perhaps, you know just as much as the rest of us..... Nothing

 

[daveleaf]

Not true. The only name that was mentioned during draft time as involved in a possible Luongo draft was Luke Schenn (reported by Elliote Friedman).

After that, it was during the lockout when Damien Cox and John Shannon reported a deal (or a 'done' deal in Shannon's case) surrounding Luongo and Bozak and a prospect.

Then the usual drivel of speculation became Bozak + Kadri. But it was much, much after the draft that people began throwing Kadri's name in the mix for a Luongo trade.

But it's fact that Cox said the Leafs refused to move Kadri for Luongo and now he's saying the opposite. Thus this is all meaningless speculation. You can't blame or commend the Leafs for something which might be entirely untrue.

Rumor out of Hockey Central was what Cox wrote about. Doesn't matter, they can ask the world for him, they will not get it.

 

[daveleaf]

Reading what the Canucks wanted - I'd rather trade Kessel, Lupul and/or JVR over Kadri. No way I move Frattin & Kadri.

A little bit off topic - but I really hope/wish we eventually move Grabs and Kuli for something special. I might sound crazy to some BUDS fans but I rather Keep CMAC at this point... He has great chemistry with Kadri....and Kadri is a piece of the core going forward. Grabs/Kuli no longer fit into "long term plans".

One of the hardest working players night in, night out.

 

[LeafOfBread]

I was vehemently against trading anything more than Bozak and a pick/B prospect for Luongo, and sure as hell NOT Kadri.

Thank god that trade never happened. Leaf fans would be committing mass suicide and management would be burned at the stake.

 

[jasonleaffan]

We also could've had Gretzky at one time.

Can we please stop with the what ifs? That's all this fan base does.

but, but, if we had roberto we would have won this much(HOMER) lmao would he have really have made that much of a diff?

 

[LeafOfBread]

I was vehemently against trading anything more than Bozak and a pick/B prospect for Luongo, and sure as hell NOT Kadri.

Thank god that trade never happened. Leaf fans would be committing mass suicide and management would be burned at the stake.

 

[34]

Ouch! Leafs would have gotten ripped off big time!!!


Luongo is washed up! Would not take his contract for free.

 

[mikebel111*]

Once again damian cox shows his brilliance, man, this guy is just a joke of a reporter sometimes.
I started to dislike Gillis after what they did to hodgson, I am happy he is succeeding in buffalo now, and I hope he burns the canuckalheads in the future
This package was thrown out there, but I doubt Burke would do this deal if he were here

 

[Kessely Snipes]

If Kadri was playing like he is on the Canucks I would have died a bit inside.

 

[IBeL34f]

Not if you were in the no Luongo at any costs camp.

And even then, there were quite a few who would have loved to bring in Luongo, as long as the price made sense. Most of us just didn't think Kadri as that price made sense.

 

[Mindrust]

I'm not surprised to hear Burke offered Kadri and a pick. He's proved in the past that he's willing to jeopardize our future for immediate gain. If this rumour is true it just goes to show the extent of how bad of a GM he was. Glad he's gone.

 

[Garbs]

Reading what the Canucks wanted - I'd rather trade Kessel, Lupul and/or JVR over Kadri. No way I move Frattin & Kadri.

A little bit off topic - but I really hope/wish we eventually move Grabs and Kuli for something special. I might sound crazy to some BUDS fans but I rather Keep CMAC at this point... He has great chemistry with Kadri....and Kadri is a piece of the core going forward. Grabs/Kuli no longer fit into "long term plans".

You would rather move Kessel, JVR, and Lupul over Frattin?

You're high.