Prospect Info: David Reinbacher

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Cult? :laugh:

And you claim that I made personal attacks on the cockamamie quilt of disjuncted fables you concocted.

I’ve never once gone overboards about Michkov, my reply to your absurd post was the first time I took a firm position about him.

And in case you haven’t heard, word is that Michkov is attending the Flyers’ camp next summer and there’s a good chance he’s available to start his NHL career in 2024.

Enjoy culture and bashing Brière — you’re about to find out that Brière has been grossly underestimated.

Over 30 years without an elite level goal scorer and we go pass on him in favor of a D that Hughes said would not qualify to run a PP1. But …. culture!
Interesting how our HuGo regime that has done countless wonderful things in a gradual process to dig out of a very bad situation in terms of lack of quality hockey players, personnel and an inherited cap nightmare suddenly became stupid on Wednesday night. All because they chose a player they strongly believe will be a better long-term asset.

Whether or not Mickhkov comes to NA next year has little bearing on my assessment of his projectability status. Any prospect in this draft other than Bedard is at least 2-3 years away from contributing in a meaningful and consistent manner anyway. We see every spring in the NHL playoffs that teams with small, average skating, one dimensional perimeter players usually don't fare well in the playoffs. Also prospects who begin the draft year at 1B in the rankings, slide throughout the season and then don't go until pick #7 usually means that others are developing at a higher rate than them. He has a lot of high end skill but he also has a lot of flaws and question marks.

Reinbacher is a very good prospect and now that people are calming down a bit, we are seeing a lot of reports from analysts, players, hockey execs that he might be a gem. Strong defense is a key ingredient to success in hockey and the Stanley Cup playoffs again proved this how teams with tall, mobile, puck moving D with high IQ can suffocate star offensive players.

Since arriving, Hughes and Gorton have shown that they are extremely thorough, diligent and calculated in all their decisions. With Bobrov having such intimate connection to Michkov's parent team, I have more faith in his knowledge of the kid from an everyday throughout the year perspective (good days and bad days) over a brand new GM and organization who got to know him in a weekend interview setting. As bad as Habs scouting has been throughout recent years, the Flyers have been even worse (the same staff Briere inherited).

At the end of the day, we won't know for another 5 years who got the better long-term asset. I'm all for good debate but I see it as childish for people to have meltdowns over a pick between several prospects on par with each other and digging their heels in with such certainty that they can't be wrong. I've been poking fun the last few weeks at these types with my "if we don't take Michkov..." drinking game post but I no idea some of these people would lose their shit as much as they did. The situation reminds of when Price got selected and the masses who wanted Brule had similar venomous tantrums. It's ignorant and obtuse for anyone in here (including myself) to think they know more than those who are close to the situation hence my head shaking at all the misguided rage. People get way too emotional and it has led to a lot of irrational thinking.
 
Friedman reported that Michkov went to meet Briere and some Flyers hockey ops guys last Friday in Philadelphia. The Flyers closed down their arena and cancelled all the events they had that day to meet with him in secret. Then they met with him again in Nashville where they introduced him to all the scouts.

So it was clear he only wanted to go to Philly. It's very possible that the teams picking ahead of Philly knew that. So they weren't going to use a high pick to select him (and then end up having another Lindros situation).

PR machine in full swing now. Do you really believe that. Habs are trying to look like victims here and explain the pick.

Hopefully Michkov is average or Reinbacher is elite. Else… it’s a really bad decision.
 
PR machine in full swing now. Do you really believe that. Habs are trying to look like victims here and explain the pick.

Hopefully Michkov is average or Reinbacher is elite. Else… it’s a really bad decision.

What if both are elite ? It doesn't have to be an either or thing. Michkov's IQ and skill isn't going away, it's doubtful he'll be anything less than excellent.
 
What if both are elite ? It doesn't have to be an either or thing. Michkov's IQ and skill isn't going away, it's doubtful he'll be anything less than excellent.
True but I'm a Habs fan. So I'm hoping we drafted a perennial Norris Trophy candidate while Michkov ends up being a head case languishing in Torterella's dog house.
 
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True but I'm a Habs fan. So I'm hoping we drafted a perennial Norris Trophy candidate while Michkov ends up being a head case languishing in Torterella's dog house.
I doubt Tortorella is there 3 years from now. He is not Brière's choice and he has a shelf life. They would probably fire him the moment Michkov complained anyway. Seems like they are happy to do anything to placate the kid.
 
I doubt Tortorella is there 3 years from now. He is not Brière choice and he has a shelf life. They would probably fire him the moment Michkov complained anyway. Seems like they are happy to do anything to placate the kid.
True Dat and I thought of it but I liked the visual. :laugh:
 
The last time we drafted an extremely mobile D with size, skill, and Intelligence? We summarily traded him for a known head case. That D went on to be instrumental in 2 cup wins and just finished a 64 point campaign at the age of 24…
 
What if both are elite ? It doesn't have to be an either or thing. Michkov's IQ and skill isn't going away, it's doubtful he'll be anything less than excellent.
If he ever gets up. Tiens, le Flyer - din dents. I hope he apologized to mr Emelin after because Michkov made him feel bad for just standing there…






Would love to see Reinbacher at the scrimmage this week with the rookies; maybe rds will have a cam set up
 
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You don't need to kiss Molson's feet brother. We're more important than Molson, Hughes, and Gorton combined. We'll be here after they're long gone. Please keep that in mind. It sucks having a dipshit owner of our hometown team, you should allow for fans to vent about him without immediately cramming down our throats about how powerless we are. If not here and among fellow fans, then where can we vent?

In Reinbacher's private messages... :sarcasm:
 
I think he’s a great player and future HOFer.

???

No. Please show me where I said he wasn’t as good because he was drafted lower.

If you want to argue that Kopitar is the better pick that’s up to you. I think you could make a case for it. Both are future HOF players. I’d take Price but if you want to say Kopitar that’s fine.

It doesn’t matter. Even if you’re getting the third best pick in the draft instead of the 2nd best it’s still a fantastic pick.

And most people are disingenuous when saying we should’ve taken Kopitar because they would’ve drafted Brule at the time.

It’d be like if in 15 years from now people cherry-pick a guy like Benson and ignore that they were screaming for Michkov.
I beleive 70% Benson will have a better career than Michkov in 16 years. NHL fans gets hypnotized by raves on internet. Instant fame, they get all enrolled in a must beleive thing. A board like here was invaded by people wanting for sure there was a consensus with Michkov. When it happen finally the most well informed team in nhl regarding what's happening in RU decide they don't pick Michkov, die hard fans scream and blame the management. And the minute before the pick was announced, that management was super excellent. Go figure.

Now I want to tell someting that I didn't like with Michkov when I was watching the vids.
The opposition s*cks ! The opposite team makes rooms when Michkov enter in the slot zone. They get creamed double size with 2 players magnet following a player, opening large space of free ice. In their own zone. Horrible opposition. On the contrary, vids of Reinbacher I liked 80% of the opposition teams and same with his team. Overall that's good caliber hockey played in his league.

I beleive 70% Benson will have a better5 career than Michkov in 16 years. NHL fans gets hypnotized by raves on internet. Instant fame, they get all enrolled in a must beleive thing. A boeard like here was invaded by people wanting for sure there was a consensus with Michkov. When it happen finally the most well informed team in nhl regarding what's happening in RU decide they don't pick Michkov, die hard fans scream and blame the management. And the minute before the pick was announced, that management was super excellent. Go figure.

Now I want to tell someting that I didn't like with Michkov when I was watching the vids.
The opposition s*cks ! The opposite team makes rooms when Micjkov enter in the slot zone. They get creamed double size with 2 players magnet following a player, opening large space of free ice. In their own zone. Horrible opposition. On the contrary, vids of Reinbacher I liked 80% of the opposition teams and same with his team. Overall that's good caliber hockey played in his league.

A lot of Mich fans were hypnotized by his goals. Like a magician trick, people didn't see the low quality of his opposite teams. When you watch a video, watch the other players as much as you watch the player you want to focus on.
 
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I am sorry, Gallagher is not a bad vet. A bad contract maybe but not a bad vet!
It's not easy to generalize when I say something. Among Hoff, Arm, Dvo, Shue, Wide and Evans, there is a good guy with the CH tatooed on his heart. He's destroyed physicly but if he could, he would do anything for his team and it's Gally. We love him!

Wish Reinbacher the best. Will always be cheering for the guy as he seems like a very nice and humble person. But this pick was based on need 100%. Hughes said early in his press conference that if Reinbacher was a left shot, then they wouldn't be as interested as they were. I mean if that isn't drafting based on needs then what is?

If his offensive skillset is a little limited, like the scouting community says, then I hope he turns out to be a Mcdonagh or Slavin instead of a Petry, or Larsson
It wasn't for the need. Reinbacher was the best pick at this rank. He could even be a better pick than Smith.
 
PR machine in full swing now. Do you really believe that. Habs are trying to look like victims here and explain the pick.

Hopefully Michkov is average or Reinbacher is elite. Else… it’s a really bad decision.
To be fair, the analysis needs to happen now. Applying hindsight is usually bs. That said, I'd have picked Michkov but Reinbacher is a very interesting prospect and it's not an obvious mistake/horrible pick imo given his potential.
 
PR machine in full swing now. Do you really believe that. Habs are trying to look like victims here and explain the pick.

Hopefully Michkov is average or Reinbacher is elite. Else… it’s a really bad decision.

One thing is above that......either the Habs win or not.
If they become a powerful team in the NHL, then it won't matter.....but if they don't win, they won't hear the end of it.
 
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