Prospect Info: David Reinbacher - Get Well Soon Edition

[JIMVINNY]

Worth noting that getting timing back, rebuilding confidence, and finding poise again on the defensive side of things is huge after this much time off. Being reliable and consistent at this stage is big for his development and (re)incorporating more offence should come with time - he has the tools. Coming back like this says a lot about his mental resilience and commitment IMO.

Especially when you compare his return to that of Dach and Laine, it's definitely a good sign. In a player as young as RB, that type of resiliency is really nice to see.

 

[KevSkillz4]

After all, he is the perfect pick.

He looks better and better every game, great vision, great position at offense and defense, great skating, great transition, he have all tools to become a very solid top 2-3 D-man for the Habs.

Hutson - Reinbacher are destined to become that top pair for the Habs and that's potential to become a very solid 1st pair for many years to come!

 

[Benstheman]

Hutson's partner starting next season.

 

[themilosh]

I don,t agree. It's a concept of value of pick. I wasn't a fan of a pick, but I ALWAYS SAID FROM THE GET GO that I have no doubt David would be a serviceable NHL player. No doubt. But at 5 with a possible generational player available...you don't aim serviceable. That was my point. And it also comes down to BPA vs Needs. It's not nonsensical when we are actually constant in our opinion.

Frankly....turn this around....we all love Demidov right? We can't wait for him to get here and we are already calling him a steal and a potential 80-point player no? Well...what if I tell you that for need purposes we went Anton Silyaev, 'cause let say we were short on Left D and had a chance to pick a towering 6'7'' player? After seeing Silyaev play and liking his game...would you have said the same thing? 'Cause Silyaev might very well be a very good player in this league. I mean, maybe even better than David. But....Demidov???

Having said all of that, and I go back to my original point as far as David is concerned...we did get a very good player that will help us. No doubt.

I think the way i always looked at is as a roster building directive.. clearly Michkov (like wright) could have been the "easier" pick, but for whatever reasons Hugo did not like them, and took alot of abuse for making the smart decision... It is what it is...

 

[WeThreeKings]

I think the way i always looked at is as a roster building directive.. clearly Michkov (like wright) could have been the "easier" pick, but for whatever reasons Hugo did not like them, and took alot of abuse for making the smart decision... It is what it is...

In the draft video, they talked about Reinbacher being the type of defenseman that all the cup winners have.

It's clear they felt with the Slaf and Reinbacher picks that they were grabbing players more historically likely to contribute to winning the cup.

 

[KevSkillz4]

In the draft video, they talked about Reinbacher being the type of defenseman that all the cup winners have.

It's clear they felt with the Slaf and Reinbacher picks that they were grabbing players more historically likely to contribute to winning the cup.

Yes. Slaf and Reinbacher are build perfectly for the playoffs. They will be really good in regular seasons, but their profile match perfectly for playoffs games.

They picking different style of players to build something special!

 

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

Michkov could be an elite scorer. But a small, not particularly fast, unilaterally opportunistic one. Some of those things can change. But that’s still a lot knocks against him. It’s not like he was an Ovechkin level physical specimen. In the pecking order of elite offensive talents that’s about as low as you can get on paper.

Reinbacher may seem like a ‘serviceable D man’ but one who has size, skating mobility and a draft pedigree that includes comparable production to Josi and better underlying numbers than Seider.

He’s displaying more offense over here in NA. Honestly he looks like a potential #1 that lacks the high end offense of many. Not unlike a McDo. Luckily we have a Dman who looks like he could be a generational talent offensively so who gives a shit really. But he clearly has more offensive potential than given credit for.

Having to defend a prospect of his calibre and pedigree is one of the biggest embarrassments of this fanbase in years and I’m not even talking about the literal hate he received.

Great pick. Always was.

 

[JIMVINNY]

Michkov could be an elite scorer. But a small, not particularly fast, unilaterally opportunistic one. Some of those things can change. But that’s still a lot knocks against him. It’s not like he was an Ovechkin level physical specimen. In the pecking order of elite offensive talents that’s about as low as you can get on paper.

Reinbacher may seem like a ‘serviceable D man’ but one who has size, skating mobility and a draft pedigree that includes comparable production to Josi and better underlying numbers than Seider.

He’s displaying more offense over here in NA. Honestly he looks like a potential #1 that lacks the high end offense of many. Not unlike a McDo. Luckily we have a Dman who looks like he could be a generational talent offensively so who gives a shit really. But he clearly has more offensive potential than given credit for.

Having to defend a prospect of his calibre and pedigree is one of the biggest embarrassments of this fanbase in years and I’m not even talking about the literal hate he received.

Great pick. Always was.

I saw Michkov as very similar to Caufield. Elite scorer, but not necessarily a play driver. Don't need 2 of those. I understand the "use him as trade bait" argument, but the uncertainty surrounding his contract situation and his apparent unwillingness to communicate with NHL teams certainly reduced his value in that regard. The rumors of attitude issues (whether accurate or not) would have given me pause were I part of the management team, especially considering the recent focus on team culture.

Elite right-handed defensemen, on the other hand, are far from common, and generally only become available either through the draft, or blockbuster trade. Taking a "chance" on the consensus #1 d-man in the draft, at a position that was entirely reasonable, should never have received the level of criticism it did. I take no issue with someone who would have preferred Michkov, but to react the way some people did was pathetic, honestly.

Great pick? Absolutely.

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

Michkov could be an elite scorer. But a small, not particularly fast, unilaterally opportunistic one. Some of those things can change. But that’s still a lot knocks against him. It’s not like he was an Ovechkin level physical specimen. In the pecking order of elite offensive talents that’s about as low as you can get on paper.

Reinbacher may seem like a ‘serviceable D man’ but one who has size, skating mobility and a draft pedigree that includes comparable production to Josi and better underlying numbers than Seider.

He’s displaying more offense over here in NA. Honestly he looks like a potential #1 that lacks the high end offense of many. Not unlike a McDo. Luckily we have a Dman who looks like he could be a generational talent offensively so who gives a shit really. But he clearly has more offensive potential than given credit for.

Having to defend a prospect of his calibre and pedigree is one of the biggest embarrassments of this fanbase in years and I’m not even talking about the literal hate he received.

Great pick. Always was.

...awesome analysis of Reinbacher...this kid's got talent, size, defensive acumen, he could be the complete package we've been looking for since Marky left...give him time to play and prove all the haters wrong...

 

[HabsMD97]

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[Sorinth]

I saw Michkov as very similar to Caufield. Elite scorer, but not necessarily a play driver. Don't need 2 of those. I understand the "use him as trade bait" argument, but the uncertainty surrounding his contract situation and his apparent unwillingness to communicate with NHL teams certainly reduced his value in that regard. The rumors of attitude issues (whether accurate or not) would have given me pause were I part of the management team, especially considering the recent focus on team culture.

Elite right-handed defensemen, on the other hand, are far from common, and generally only become available either through the draft, or blockbuster trade. Taking a "chance" on the consensus #1 d-man in the draft, at a position that was entirely reasonable, should never have received the level of criticism it did. I take no issue with someone who would have preferred Michkov, but to react the way some people did was pathetic, honestly.

Great pick? Absolutely.

And funnily enough we saw the exact same thing happen the year after with Chicago going with the big smooth RD over the prolific scoring winger. It's not for nothing that NHL universally value the package that a guy like Reinbacher brings over what Michkov brings, sometimes as with Caufield teams were wrong in that evaluation, but they are also right a lot of the time as well.

 

[the valiant effort]

Hutson's partner starting next season.

Pretty good chance.

And while there is a big difference between the AHL and NHL I watch the video of Reinbacher charging down ice for the goal last night and can easily imagine him bringing that awareness and “risk”-taking in the bigs

 

[Benstheman]

Pretty good chance.

And while there is a big difference between the AHL and NHL I watch the video of Reinbacher charging down ice for the goal last night and can easily imagine him bringing that awareness and “risk”-taking in the bigs

Yep 2nd pair with Hutson will be solid next season. Guhle and Matheson (or RHD via trade) can take the load of the 1st pair for one season.

 

[TheBuriedHab]

People keep talking about Michkov, but Leonard is the one that will always be the debate for me.

Anyways I'm very happy with Reinbacher. Look at the RHD trade market, David Savard is like the best one available lol. The scout in the behind the scenes video was right, getting a guy like Reinbacher just makes our lives so much easier going forward.

 

[Whitesnake]

There was a possible generational player available?

Who?

For whoever follows hockey...that's what Michkov was portrait at and is doing pretty well for a guy some in here keep laughing at.

The hypocrisy that is going on is insane. We drool over Demidov in the KHL (with reason) yet Michkov was up there too. What he's doing now is remarkable with the team he's playing with. And if he'd be doing that with us, we'd be ecstatic. But somehow, he was not worthy of our desire to get him?

Will be tough for people who only waits for others to have opinions in order to bash them to comeback in a few years and tell us how a nothingburger Michkov is.......

 

[Whitesnake]

Now that is nonsensical. People have a right to doubt a pick and prefer another player. There's nothing nonsensical about that. What's nonsensical are the two extremes. Either thinking HuGo can do no wrong or shitting on a 18 years old pick.


You were just as embarassing. Your incapacity at accepting differing opinions and your tantrums over it made you just as embarassing. And spare me the justifications, trying to use the extreme nuts who tweeted his family. You were all out on anyone who wanted Michkov.

Insane how some people in here who have been a long time having opinions hates when people have opinions contrary to theirs....I will never get it. How do people like being in a forum of opinions when they don't like opinions? lol

No idea how having opinions is embarassing. Especially when those pro in scouting keep making mistakes. AND when we are told that it's normal for scouts to be wrong as it,s not an exact science. Posters are judged more harshly than the ones paid to do the job.....that's embarrassing to me.

 

[Whitesnake]

Man what a great thing. We have traversed a lot of ground with this kid over the years. Because of Michkov and the injury we just assume he's a bust. Not the case. Draft reports had him as a Seider level talent. He's starting to show it. Unreal.

I'd love to know who called Reinbacher a bust. Would LOVE to see that. I have no IDEA how preferring somebody than somebody else EQUALS either hating the guy you wouldn't pick or thinking he'd bust. In my top 10 list, I had Reinbacher at 8. Had Michkov at 2. No bust. No hate.

 

[habdynasty]

It’s nice to have a front office that has a plan. Really looking forward to seeing Rein with the Habs.

 

[Benstheman]

It’s nice to have a front office that has a plan. Really looking forward to seeing Rein with the Habs.

I think we will see him this season and maybe in the playoffs if we make it.

 

[Whitesnake]

People keep talking about Michkov, but Leonard is the one that will always be the debate for me.

Anyways I'm very happy with Reinbacher. Look at the RHD trade market, David Savard is like the best one available lol. The scout in the behind the scenes video was right, getting a guy like Reinbacher just makes our lives so much easier going forward.

Love Leonard too. Had him at 6. One guy I probably missed the boat on was Benson who I had between Leonard and Reinbacher.....As far as RHD...sure. You need some. That's why we drafted Juulsen in 2015...a certain Aho was picked later on. But that same year we could have picked Carlo. Could have picked McAvoy insted of Sergachev. Almost every year we could have picked a RD and not in revisionist history...a guy that was picked not long after we picked. We could have dropped down a little in 2018 and pick Boqvist who we would have love to have with us....until we wouldn't and so on. At one point is the RD the right pick? Well I guess for them when they don't like as much any other players when it's time to pick. They didn't pick Michkov and Leonard were worth passing on Reinbacher.....fine if that's the case.

 

[Benstheman]

Love Leonard too. Had him at 6. One guy I probably missed the boat on was Benson who I had between Leonard and Reinbacher.....As far as RHD...sure. You need some. That's why we drafted Juulsen in 2015...a certain Aho was picked later on. But that same year we could have picked Carlo. Could have picked McAvoy insted of Sergachev. Almost every year we could have picked a RD and not in revisionist history...a guy that was picked not long after we picked. We could have dropped down a little in 2018 and pick Boqvist who we would have love to have with us....until we wouldn't and so on. At one point is the RD the right pick? Well I guess for them when they don't like as much any other players when it's time to pick. They didn't pick Michkov and Leonard were worth passing on Reinbacher.....fine if that's the case.

They may be all great picks at the end of the day. Anyways, how can someone compare one with each other when they all different players that brings different elements to the game. Unless one busts hard, weighting their respective contribution will be tough to rank.

 

[Whitesnake]

Going back to Reinbacher, I'M impressed seeing how he picked it up. Keep him in Laval though. But he'll clearly be having at least his 9 games next year...at a minimum. But skating, size, strength, defensive IQ...it,s all there to help as soon as next year.

 

[japhi27returns]

Man what a great thing. We have traversed a lot of ground with this kid over the years. Because of Michkov and the injury we just assume he's a bust. Not the case. Draft reports had him as a Seider level talent. He's starting to show it. Unreal.

Uhhhh a lof of us remained as high on him as we were post draft.

I will agree that a lot of posters were confused about what makes a player a busy (hint, it has nothing to do with another player, or an early career recoverable injury). There was a reason he was the top d man drafted and that hasn’t changed.

 

[Benstheman]

Going back to Reinbacher, I'M impressed seeing how he picked it up. Keep him in Laval though. But he'll clearly be having at least his 9 games next year...at a minimum. But skating, size, strength, defensive IQ...it,s all there to help as soon as next year.

Next season he is 100% making the starting roster and play full time, unless we get a top 4 RHD.

 

[HabsAddict]

We will have a better picture of what we have in Reinbacher by seasons end in the AHL. So far, in 5 out of 6 games he played, I haven't seen any gross errors of judgement. Yes, he's made mistakes and he's NOT 100% yet so his physical play is limited, but he hasn't overcommited and get beaten on the outside or puck watching and get caught.

Be patient with any assessments...