Confirmed with Link: David Quinn - New Rangers Coach (Officially official on 5/23)

[Machinehead]

I remember when Torts came in... wouldn't let anyone step on the logo in the dressing room. Stern. Strict. Discipline. Ran some rough practices... bag skates. The conditioning was exemplary.

Eventually Torts ran his course (& his mouth) and the team needed to be freed up a bit, especially offensively.

Enter AV. The first season, they go to the finals... yeah maybe they could've defended better and won. Maybe the refs could've ALLOWED Hank to make saves without people in his crease and things might have gone differently.

AV wears out his welcome with his impossible defensive system, player usage issues, his hands off approach & his inability to adapt along w his reluctance to bring along the youth.

Enter Quinn.

Talking about practice, work ethic, conditioning, creating relationships with players young and old, analytics and puck possession.

Evolution.

Torts has a very good system but it's very rigid and has a hard time overcoming its own limitations. He affords very little freedom. He isn't well liked but has the respect of his players. His teams battle. He's a good coach, but he's too much.

AV gives all the offensive freedom but he's also completely negligent in other areas of the ice. He's a likeable guy at first but commands little respect. There's virtually zero culture and discipline. Deadbeat coach, too hands-off.

I see Quinn -just based on the interviews- at the middle ground we've needed.

 

[Machinehead]

To me, Quinn seems like a nice balance between Torts and AV, in terms of personality. He’s strict, but not insane. He’s personable, but not a pushover.

Beat me to it.

 

[kovazub94]

Thought 24 was telling. Quinn mentioned that he and Drury talked regularly DURING the season 2-3 times a week. This is very telling since he wasn’t talking about an occasional, once in a blue moon phone call (that would’ve been fine too). Tells me at least two things besides the fact that Quinn was their guy for a long time.

First, this is a proof to the contrary for posters that didn’t believe that AV was not part of Gorton’s going forward plan for a long time.

Second, and somewhat related, Miller was not moved to appease AV.

 

[Thirty One]

I don’t recall ever saying we’ve overpaid coaches before. So not sure where you got that from.

Allow me to be of assistance:

Or when they overpay for a no name coach that clearly did not want to come until we backed the brinks truck up in front of his home. We’ve done that before many times and it never has worked.

My questions stands. What were these many times you were referring to?

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Allow me to be of assistance:



My questions stands. What were these many times you were referring to?

You probably misinterpreted his post

 

[Deleted member 23124]

Thought 24 was telling. Quinn mentioned that he and Drury talked regularly DURING the season 2-3 times a week. This is very telling since he wasn’t talking about an occasional, once in a blue moon phone call (that would’ve been fine too). Tells me at least two things besides the fact that Quinn was their guy for a long time.

First, this is a proof to the contrary for posters that didn’t believe that AV was not part of Gorton’s going forward plan for a long time.

Second, and somewhat related, Miller was not moved to appease AV.

I agree...when he said he and Gorton have been friends for 25 years, that pretty much said it all.

I got the feeling when Gorton was hired that he would want to model this team after the good Bruins teams of recent memory. I think he let the AV situation play out because AV was a recent hire and the window was still open. I don't think it took much for him to finally convince Stogey Man and Dolan to let him revamp the team.

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[Deleted member 23124]

I remember when Torts came in... wouldn't let anyone step on the logo in the dressing room. Stern. Strict. Discipline. Ran some rough practices... bag skates. The conditioning was exemplary.

Eventually Torts ran his course (& his mouth) and the team needed to be freed up a bit, especially offensively.

If I remember correctly, Tort's "system" with the Rangers was due more to the player personnel rather than his own preference. The only real scorer he had was Gaborik. He certainly didn't have the offensive weapons he had in Tampa Bay.

 

[nyr2k2]

If I remember correctly, Tort's "system" with the Rangers was due more to the player personnel rather than his own preference. The only real scorer he had was Gaborik. He certainly didn't have the offensive weapons he had in Tampa Bay.

Yep. The talk here when we hired Torts was that he was gonna take the shackles off and the offense would finally live up to its potential. Safe is death and all that. Instead he played a different system based on our personnel.

 

[Thirty One]

Yep. The talk here when we hired Torts was that he was gonna take the shackles off and the offense would finally live up to its potential. Safe is death and all that. Instead he played a different system based on our personnel.

It’s funny, when AV got the job in Vancouver, he was billed as the defensive coach they needed. Torts was billed as the offensive coach here. In 2013, when AV was hired here and Torts was hired in Vancouver, their reputations were reversed.

 

[LORDE]

Didn't Gorts extend AV?

I have no dog in this fight.

But if he extended him it would seem that he felt (at the time) that AV was part of the future

 

[Deleted member 23124]

Didn't Gorts extend AV?

I have no dog in this fight.

But if he extended him it would seem that he felt (at the time) that AV was part of the future

As long as Sather is anywhere around, I can't believe he hasn't got his finger in some of the pies. I think Stogey and/or Dolan made that decision...not that it really matters....they extended Torts and promptly fired him.

 

[RangerBlues]

Slats has the last say on everything.

 

[Irishguy42]

Slats has the last say on everything.

Nope.

But he does give advice.

 

[Nopuckluck]

Yep. The talk here when we hired Torts was that he was gonna take the shackles off and the offense would finally live up to its potential. Safe is death and all that. Instead he played a different system based on our personnel.

That’s what good coaches do. Build a system to fit your personnel not vice versa. Torta and the way his teams played made me the most proud to be a Rangers fan I’ve ever been.

 

[Doctyl]

We still have the good things or Gorton bad things are Sather shtick going on?

 

[Nopuckluck]

We still have the good things or Gorton bad things are Sather shtick going on?

We shouldn’t. It’s Gortons team. Period. Slats is a figure head

 

[NYR]

Few thoughts.
Torts is one of the premier coaches in this league and I can't think of a better coach when it comes to making the best out of whatever roster he has.
He was dismissed because he became a tyrant.
Instead of JG firing AV, he gave him an extension instead.
I like what I'm hearing from Quinn so far but right now it's nothing more than lip service.
Is Shattenkirk the new captain now? Hope not.
Wtf is Chris Drury doing here anyway other than completing the full Boston circle jerk ?

 

[LORDE]

Few thoughts.
Torts is one of the premier coaches in this league and I can't think of a better coach when it comes to making the best out of whatever roster he has.
He was dismissed because he became a tyrant.
Instead of JG firing AV, he gave him an extension instead.
I like what I'm hearing from Quinn so far but right now it's nothing more than lip service.
Is Shattenkirk the new captain now? Hope not.
Wtf is Chris Drury doing here anyway other than completing the full Boston circle jerk ?

Does any of that matter as long as we are on our way to being a better team? Winning a Cup down the line even?

I just don’t get the hate.

 

[Rongomania]

Few thoughts.
Torts is one of the premier coaches in this league and I can't think of a better coach when it comes to making the best out of whatever roster he has.
He was dismissed because he became a tyrant.
Instead of JG firing AV, he gave him an extension instead.
I like what I'm hearing from Quinn so far but right now it's nothing more than lip service.
Is Shattenkirk the new captain now? Hope not.
Wtf is Chris Drury doing here anyway other than completing the full Boston circle jerk ?

This is comedy gold.

 

[NYR]

Does any of that matter as long as we are on our way to being a better team? Winning a Cup down the line even?

I just don’t get the hate.

I'm not hating man.
I've been following this team for more years than I care to admit.
I want this team to succeed just like you do but I'm not one for excuses either.
If you get down to the root of the matter, when exactly did this team start having problems?
Why is everyone so afraid of addressing that?

The roster and coach may have changed but what's been done other than that, that you have so much faith?

Just keeping it real..

 

[NYR]

This is comedy gold.

Seriously though, if you're going to make a useless hire to run an original 6 team, why not Mess, Leetch, Richter, Graves.
Wtf has Chris Drury every done?
Really? Lol

 

[New York RKY]

Seriously though, if you're going to make a useless hire to run an original 6 team, why not Mess, Leetch, Richter, Graves.
Wtf has Chris Drury every done?
Really? Lol

Wtf has Mess, Leetch, Richter, and Graves ever done?

 

[NYR]

Wtf has Mess, Leetch, Richter, and Graves ever done?

Umm how about some hockey hall of famors and face of the franchise guys instead of a nobody that went from coaching his kids to AGM?

Is this a real question?

 

[New York RKY]

Umm how about some hockey hall of famors and face of the franchise guys instead of a nobody that went from coaching his kids to AGM?

Is this a real question?

And yet they all had the same amount of front office experience when they were hired.

 

[darko]

Just busting your chops

Why do you continue to bully me?