David Pastrnak hits 100 points for the third season in a row

[BKarchitect]

Best winger not named Kucherov, along with a healthy Kaprizov. Those are the three foundational, franchise level wingers in the league IMO.

 

[keglu]

Imo, easily a top 5 player in the league.

He is a magician. Elite, borderline generational talent.

Which ones is he easily better than:
Mackinnon
McDavid
Draisaitl
Kucherov
Q hughes
Makar?

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

Which ones is he easily better than:
Mackinnon
McDavid
Draisaitl
Kucherov
Q hughes
Makar?

Hughes and Makar, easily

 

[Bruins4Lifer]

Bergeron and Marchand were 50-60 point player without Pastrnak, Krejci was arguably better than both

The league and the way the Bruins played changed pretty significantly around the time Pasta entered the league. Bergeron and Marchand played a long time when goal scoring was way lower than it is now, and even Bergeron had scored 70+ points multiple times by then.

It's really ridiculous to say Pastrnak was the reason they starting scoring more points. You weren't paying attention if you think that. Marchand was without a doubt the #1 offensive driver on their line from '16 to '21. 50 more points than Pastrnak over those 5 years.

 

[Nicko999]

It’s because McDavid, Kucherov, MacKinnon, Draisaitl, and Matthews are definitively better, and that’s before we crack into any defensemen and goalies.

He’s an awesome player, maybe even heads the list of best forwards after those five with his consistency factored in at this point, but never being in the top 5 is not because he’s underrated— it’s because there are a clear handful of players he’s objectively behind.

I definitely would rank him ahead of Matthews. More 100 pts seasons and has actually even surpassed 110 pts with no supporting cast.

For non forwards, I would have Makar ahead but that's it. So yes, maybe not top 5 but I would have him as 6th.

 

[keglu]

Hughes and Makar, easily

They both produce at 90%+ of his production. What D needs to do to be better than F?

 

[AvatarAang]

Which ones is he easily better than:
Mackinnon
McDavid
Draisaitl
Kucherov
Q hughes
Makar?

From your list of players:

1 - McDavid
2 - Mack
3 - Drai
4 - Kuch
5 - Makar
6 - Pasta
7 - Hughes


Mack, Drai and Kuch are interchangeable, not enough separation between them to definitely say one is better than the others

I prefer Makar over Pasta but wouldn’t be surprised if there are other people that prefer Pasta more

Hughes needs another 90pt season to be in the same conversation as Makar let alone the rest of those fowards

 

[keglu]

From your list of players:

1 - McDavid
2 - Mack
3 - Drai
4 - Kuch
5 - Makar
6 - Pasta
7 - Hughes


Mack, Drai and Kuch are interchangeable, not enough separation between them to definitely say one is better than the others

I prefer Makar over Pasta but wouldn’t be surprised if there are other people that prefer Pasta more

Hughes needs another 90pt season to be in the same conversation as Makar let alone the rest of those fowards

Im Avs/Makar fan and IMO Hughes is as good as him in last 2 seasons.

 

[keglu]

I definitely would rank him ahead of Matthews. More 100 pts seasons and has actually even surpassed 110 pts with no supporting cast.

For non forwards, I would have Makar ahead but that's it. So yes, maybe not top 5 but I would have him as 6th.

Yeah, Matthews with 2nd mediocre season in last 3 years drops from Top 5 conversation.

 

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Which ones is he easily better than:
Mackinnon
McDavid
Draisaitl
Kucherov
Q hughes
Makar?

Quinn Hughes? lol

How did he make this list.

 

[Sheppy]

From your list of players:

1 - McDavid
2 - Mack
3 - Drai
4 - Kuch
5 - Makar
6 - Pasta
7 - Hughes


Mack, Drai and Kuch are interchangeable, not enough separation between them to definitely say one is better than the others

I prefer Makar over Pasta but wouldn’t be surprised if there are other people that prefer Pasta more

Hughes needs another 90pt season to be in the same conversation as Makar let alone the rest of those fowards

I have it pretty much the same as well. Geekie is going full Kunitz with Pastrnak this season, and will be paid accordingly.

 

[keglu]

Quinn Hughes? lol

How did he make this list.

By getting 90% of 1st places in Norris voting last year in pretty stacked field.

 

[Erika]

Which ones is he easily better than:
Mackinnon
McDavid
Draisaitl
Kucherov
Q hughes
Makar?

Makar is on par with Pasta I think, but Quinn Hughes is a little behind those 2 imo.

 

[Voight]

Uncle Gary better rig the lottery so he can play with Misa or Hagens

Lets face it, if it's being rigged for anyone, its going to be Pittsburgh.

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

It’s because McDavid, Kucherov, MacKinnon, Draisaitl, and Matthews are definitively better, and that’s before we crack into any defensemen and goalies.

He’s an awesome player, maybe even heads the list of best forwards after those five with his consistency factored in at this point, but never being in the top 5 is not because he’s underrated— it’s because there are a clear handful of players he’s objectively behind.

Matthews? HA!!!!!

Many discredit Pastrnak because of his role in the perfection line and now underrated him due to the abysmal roster and PP going on 2 seasons now.

Quite literally a player on an island dragging his team away from a top 3 draft pick.

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

Pasta is an underrated passer, similar to how Iginla was. He just doesn't have any guys around him who can finish.

 

[Czechboy]

Which ones is he easily better than:
Mackinnon
McDavid
Draisaitl
Kucherov
Q hughes
Makar?

Curious how you would rank this? And why not toss in elite goalies if you are tossing in d? Shesterkin and helle.

My answer is I believe all those guys belong in the conversation (including pasta) but I have no idea how I'd rank them.lol

 

[Rob Sense]

Uncle Gary better rig the lottery so he can play with Misa or Hagens

of course he will

 

[The Hockey Tonk Man]

Pretty wild the performance he’s put on
One of the best in the game.

 

[fbuford]

Yeah, Matthews with 2nd mediocre season in last 3 years drops from Top 5 conversation.

Matthews is still on pace for ~100 points, over 82 games, this season.
He's going to definitely have major surgery this summer, and, than we can evaluate his position as top 5 in the NHL.

Something is wrong with Matthews, he isn't shooting wristers at all this season. It's 100% a wrist injury. Even on the powerplay, you'll either see him defer the puck or one time it.

It's clearly been bugging him since last playoffs, when he got injured.

 

[keglu]

Matthews is still on pace for ~100 points, over 82 games, this season.
He's going to definitely have major surgery this summer, and, than we can evaluate his position as top 5 in the NHL.

Something is wrong with Matthews, he isn't shooting wristers at all this season. It's 100% a wrist injury. Even on the powerplay, you'll either see him defer the puck or one time it.

It's clearly been bugging him since last playoffs, when he got injured.

95 points which is currently pace for best Defencemans in the league. Even if he is back to last year form. you still have 4 forwards that are consistently great + Makar, so top5 is hard to crack either way,

 

[CTHabsfan]

I wish this mock draft had been correct. I love the part about Pasta becoming a 45-60 POINT player. 2014 NHL Mock Draft: Updated Predictions, Analysis For First Round - NESN.com

 

[BruinLVGA]

Yep

David Pastrnak started to play at high levels in 16-17, when he reached 70 points and surpassed the 30 goals mark for the first time.
From 16-17, to 21-22 (=6 seasons), he was outscored by Brad Marchand 5 seasons out of 6. So, your statement of „Bergeron and Marchand were 50-60 point player without Pastrnak“ is FACTUALLY WRONG.

Saying that „Krejci was better than both“ had merit for the first few years they played together, but for the past dozen of years, it‘s brutally laughable.

 

[BruinLVGA]

Pasta is an underrated passer, similar to how Iginla was. He just doesn't have any guys around him who can finish.

I agree with you. He managed to turn Geekie into a 30 goals scorer, that‘s a miracle in and of itself.

 

[MrPickles]

He's really come back to form from the start of the season. His start was poo for my fantasy team.