Player Discussion: David Jiricek

[CBJx614]

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[ViD]

Considering they have Gus who’s only 26, I guess it’s possible Minnesota will agree to move Wallstedt

 

[tunnelvision]

if being a 20-year-old defenseman in the AHL is stagnating that's bad news for a lot of prospects, korchinski and name included

and yet he fell to 12th in his draft all the same.

You want to see progress in the most crucial areas of any given prospect's game. Which league they are playing in at 20/21 is irrelevant to what I'm trying to say.

You may disagree but I don't think Jiricek's value has gone up from a year ago.

 

[cbjthrowaway]

You want to see progress in the most crucial areas of any given prospect's game. Which league they are playing in at 20/21 is irrelevant to what I'm trying to say.

You may disagree but I don't think Jiricek's value has gone up from a year ago.

I'm not saying his value has gone up but I don't think he's a distressed asset either.

my point is that he's only being framed as a disappointment because of all the drama from last year + the trade rumblings now. in reality he's right where nemec and korchinski are, and as a prospect he is arguably more well-rounded (bigger/more physical than both).

I doubt team grades on him have shifted much since the end of his D+1 year. the skating stuff has always been a concern, but any team acquiring him will probably bet on fixing it.

 

[Viqsi]

not so fast on minnesota. their system is good. the names that appeal most to me in those systems (michkov's not happening)

1. buium - min
2. wallstedt - min
3. yurov - min
4. edstrom - nsh
5. rossi - min
6. drysdale - phi
7. bonk - phi
8. luchanko - phi
9. evangelista - nsh
10. wood - nsh

of those names, obviously buium and wallstedt are the most appealing. i doubt they give up either guy but you never know.

with buium he was obviously the top guy left on MIN's board when they picked, but they could very well have a higher grade on jiricek. and wallstedt is clearly the top goalie prospect in hockey, but they have a good young goalie in gustavsson already there.

would love to get yurov. slam-dunk top six forward who has taken big steps since moving to center full-time. smart, competitive, skilled player who i think has a shot to be a star. seems like they expect him to come over this summer which is why they may be looking to move rossi.

i'm higher on edstrom than rossi long-term, but rossi looks really good right now and they need to bolster the forward group.

drysdale would be interesting but ultimately uninspiring. definitely a great skater but would run into some of the same issues here that jiricek did – unless evason would have the guts to have him leap-frog severson.

less confident on the projections for the other guys. evangelista is a fine young player but i see him more as a middle six complimentary piece. wood reminds me of laine in a way that makes me nervous.

I suspect Edstrom's unlikely to be available since he was just picked up in the Askarov trade, but the way Trotz seems to be running things with kids there G-d only knows. Evangelista is... well, with the recent Tomasino giveaway my guilt is gone and my conscience is clear and I'm now thinking "save him from the madness", but yeah he's still short of a Jiricek trade.

 

[thebus88]

Seth Jones and call it a day.

Or Mavrik Bourque/Shane Wright.

 

[ViD]

Seth Jones and call it a day.

Or Mavrik Bourque/Shane Wright.

Seth Jones ? The 30 year old that is currently injured ? Nah

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

Seth Jones and call it a day.

Or Mavrik Bourque/Shane Wright.

I don’t know if Seth would want to come back after failing and asking out while he was a fan favorite and part of the leadership group.

Maybe after he retires.

 

[S1N4TR4]

and here we go

 

[Seedtype]

Oh I am hype!!!11!!!!112!!

 

[Cyclones Rock]

If he does go at this point, it's probably a case of "cut our losses" with management.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

For the record before it happens and without knowing the trade details, I do not agree with this and think Waddell is moving exceptionally fast on a situation that doesn’t require it. This is PLD level quickness.*

*unless Jiricek is acting up behind the scenes but nothing suggests that at this point.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

 

[Viqsi]

I would be curious if those are offers that are credible by Seravalli's standards or by Waddell's. There's a lot of folks who seem to think it should be perfectly fine for us to accept a midrange player and a pick and Waddell's meanwhile only commented about one-for-one.

 

[We Want Ten]

I have no opinion on this until it happens and I see the return.

 

[NotCommitted]

If they trade him I kinda believe it's because he's asked out or made it clear he doesn't see his long term future with the Jackets. Or the offers they are getting are way better than some posters suggest here. I don't think any GM looks to move a higher end 20/21 year old D-prospect for a bag of pucks just because.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

 

[S1N4TR4]

Jackets and Pens make horrible trade partners imo

 

[Doggy]

 

[Viqsi]

On the one hand, it's Hedger. On the other hand, it would make sense for this "omg imminent trade" mishegaas to not be true.

 

[ViD]

All I can say folks is prepare to be disappointed.

The question is to what degree

 

[Viqsi]

Somewhat more credible. But also somewhat less absolute on the matter.

 

[AnonCommentary]

 

[Doggy]

On the one hand, it's Hedger. On the other hand, it would make sense for this "omg imminent trade" mishegaas to not be true.

Well, Hedger does think he's a big "macher"