Rumor: David Jiricek available

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I think the Penguins would almost assuredly be adding assets on top of Pettersson to get that deal done. I don't think Mynio and a 1st for Jiricek gets it done.

But at that point, why would Columbus be trading Jiricek for quantity? Like I said, I'm skeptical that kind of deal would get done.
Others are saying "hockey trade" so like many have suggested it will probably be a similar level prospect 1 for 1 and maybe a small pick one way or the other.

If he has to be traded I dont know why they don't wait and try and add him in a big deal for an established guy but if we go off what's actually out there we will see a top prospect for top prospect swap
 
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I think the Penguins would almost assuredly be adding assets on top of Pettersson to get that deal done. I don't think Mynio and a 1st for Jiricek gets it done.

But at that point, why would Columbus be trading Jiricek for quantity? Like I said, I'm skeptical that kind of deal would get done.
It probably doesn’t, I’m just saying it’s a silly idea that Vancouver would choose the impending UFA they may not be able to re-sign rather than the big, RHD that was a recent 6th overall pick.
 

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I understand but that wasn't my question
To answer your question, no.

I feel confident because that tweet would have been posted 3, or 4 times and I hadn't seen anyone else say something similar with a given timeline.

I'm sure if it doesn't happen it's because there's a "new" player who jumped into the mix
 

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Wasn’t he benched and sent down last year? Haven’t kept up with either Jacket this year. I know KJ is a local product so hence the offer/ask.
he got injured late last year (required surgery), looked dynamite for his first few games under a new staff, then got hurt again, came back, and… looked even better.

kj has 9 points in 6 games this year and looks like a star. he's also on a 3-year bridge at $1.8m AAV. he is arguably one of the most untouchable pieces in the sport imo.
 

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Flyers should definitely be in on this; they’ve got ammo

Some combination of pieces I’d put on the table:

Farabee
Frost
Foerster
Drysdale
3 1sts
3 2nds

You have a blank among your ammo on table there

Drysdale is injured again and has been horrific when healthy for Flyers. Hard to see Jackets having interest in that

But maybe I am wrong, and they make same mistake Flyers did
 

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Others are saying "hockey trade" so like many have suggested it will probably be a similar level prospect 1 for 1 and maybe a small pick one way or the other.

If he has to be traded I dont know why they don't wait and try and add him in a big deal for an established guy but if we go off what's actually out there we will see a top prospect for top prospect swap
Shane Wright or Zegras seem plausible if it’s a one for one. Couple guys who are stalled in their growth. Similar to Juricek.
 

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Others are saying "hockey trade" so like many have suggested it will probably be a similar level prospect 1 for 1 and maybe a small pick one way or the other.

If he has to be traded I dont know why they don't wait and try and add him in a big deal for an established guy but if we go off what's actually out there we will see a top prospect for top prospect swap
the upshot to the whole "we're looking for a hockey trade" thing is that if a team really wants jiricek and can't pull off a hockey trade, they have to make a godfather offer to get waddell to listen.
 

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Waddle is the new GM in CBJ. Not on him that Jiricek was the 6OA pick in 2022. So, he doesn't have a lot of rope left in CBJ. And if moved, he won't for the new team either.
He is 20 yrs old d man. He has a ton of rope left and his entire carrier ahead of him. Not sure what you’re talking about.
 
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Others are saying "hockey trade" so like many have suggested it will probably be a similar level prospect 1 for 1 and maybe a small pick one way or the other.

If he has to be traded I dont know why they don't wait and try and add him in a big deal for an established guy but if we go off what's actually out there we will see a top prospect for top prospect swap

I've been joking about it, but I do wonder if McGroarty+ for Jiricek is something Dubas would push. Portzline said Dubas was scouting Cleveland when Jiricek was playing and it seems like the Penguins are interested. McGroarty or their 2025 1st are really the only 2 assets that could move the needle there. I would trade the Penguins 2025 1st for Jiricek if I had any way of knowing that it would be 6th or later, but I just can't confidently say that.

Would be a bad look for Dubas to trade McGroarty this quickly, but business is business.

 

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I've been joking about it, but I do wonder if McGroarty+ for Jiricek is something Dubas would push. Portzline said Dubas was scouting Cleveland when Jiricek was playing and it seems like the Penguins are interested. McGroarty or their 2025 1st are really the only 2 assets that could move the needle there.

Would be a bad look for Dubas to trade McGroarty this quickly, but business is business.


I wouldn't hate the idea of that. Hell, I brought up Kent Johnson to Winnipeg for him over the summer. I look like an idiot now, but I'll own it.
 
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He is 20 yrs old d man. He has a ton of rope left and his entire carrier ahead of him. Not sure what you’re talking about.
I think that the new management might feel that they want less entitlement from Jiricek and his people. Since they didn't pick him, they are less married to the idea of keeping him, and dealing with the mess that the previous regime made out of his development.

In a general sense, you are right. Most prospects, especially D, shouldn't be judged this early. In this particular case, though, mistakes were made on both sides, and Waddell and his people might want to wash their hands of it all and get what they can for him.
 

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I've been joking about it, but I do wonder if McGroarty+ for Jiricek is something Dubas would push. Portzline said Dubas was scouting Cleveland when Jiricek was playing and it seems like the Penguins are interested. McGroarty or their 2025 1st are really the only 2 assets that could move the needle there. I would trade the Penguins 2025 1st for Jiricek if I had any way of knowing that it would be 6th or later, but I just can't confidently say that.

Would be a bad look for Dubas to trade McGroarty this quickly, but business is business.


I wonder if they would want to deal in the division without a move that seems kind of outrageous. Columbus should be a team with a good handle on McGroarty as they probably saw tons of him while watching Fantilli/Brindley. Would be a horrible trade to get wrong though
 
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I wouldn't hate the idea of that. Hell, I brought up Kent Johnson to Winnipeg for him over the summer. I look like an idiot now, but I'll own it.

I also think it makes a bit of sense because McGroarty and Fantilli played together at Michigan as well, I know they were dominating as the McGroarty-Fantilli-Brindley line in Fantilli's only year at Michigan. I didn't even realize that the Jackets also have Brindley as well.

I wouldn't bet on it as likely because I think it would be shocking for Dubas to give up this quickly on McGroarty, but if he sees Jiricek as a better prospect, it's not hard to see why he'd do it. He did basically the same trade with Yager for McGroarty after all. The Jackets likely have seen McGroarty as much as anyone and Dubas has shown he's willing to trade a good prospect for (in his eyes) a better prospect, so would it be all that surprising?
 

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I wonder if they would want to deal in the division without a move that seems kind of outrageous. Columbus should be a team with a good handle on McGroarty as they probably saw tons of him while watching Fantilli/Brindley. Would be a horrible trade to get wrong though

PIT and CBJ make very little sense to be trading partners for Jiricek. But there seems to be some smoke around it.

Probably just Dubas trying to make it look like he's doing something.
 

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PIT and CBJ make very little sense to be trading partners for Jiricek. But there seems to be some smoke around it.

Probably just Dubas trying to make it look like he's doing something.

I think the logic there would be planning on trading Karlsson next off-season and eventually ending up with Jiricek, Letang and Brunicke as their 1st-3rd pair RD. Once Letang retires, Brunicke will jump to the 2nd pair.

Jiricek, Pickering and Brunicke is a nice start to build up the long-term defense. Just sucks that their forward prospect pool would be so bad after it.
 

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Isaac Howard (2022 1st)
Nick Perbix
2025 2nd (Los Angeles)

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David Jiricek

Howard for Jiricek seems like an over pay personally.

I think the logic there would be planning on trading Karlsson next off-season and eventually ending up with Jiricek, Letang and Brunicke as their 1st-3rd pair RD. Once Letang retires, Brunicke will jump to the 2nd pair.

Jiricek, Pickering and Brunicke is a nice start to build up the long-term defense. Just sucks that their forward prospect pool would be so bad after it.

In my mind, I'm thinking Brunicke is probably a part of the package.
 

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From Rob Rossi on The Athletic:

No Penguins prospect is off limits as part of the package, the sources said, including McGroarty. A Penguins source said Dubas hasn’t soured on McGroarty. Rather, that source said, Dubas simply loves Jiříček, a right-shot defenseman.

I wouldn't count Rossi as reliable but worth pointing out.
 
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I doubt the Penguins get Jiricek, but if they do, I bet it would be McGroarty and either Blomqvist or Murashov for Jiricek. It seems like the Jackets have absolutely nothing in terms of goalie prospects right now while the Penguins have an abundance of goalie prospects.

GIving up Blomqvist would hurt because he's basically NHL ready right now, but I think Murashov is an athletic freak with a higher upside. Either would be a nice addition for the Jackets IMO
 

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Yeah, I would never rely on Rossi to break news, but I think he's good enough not to straight up fabricate a source.

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