Rumor: David Jiricek available

[Nucklehead Supreme]

Stop no one wants higkander

Funny he keeps being asked for in trades, and has been for years but nobody wants him.........

 

[Stephen]

Seems like Jiricek has been a little unhappy since day one.

 

[cbjthrowaway]

Seems like Jiricek has been a little unhappy since day one.

pictured: day one

 

[Stephen]

pictured: day one

Daily Faceoff's Frank Seravalli Hands Down Damning Indictment of the Blue Jackets Front Office Amid David Jiricek Controversy

Daily Faceoff NHL insider Frank Seravalli handed down a damning indictment of Columbus Blue Jackets general manager Jarmo Kekalainen and the team's front office.

www.1stohiobattery.com

 

[CBJx614]

I don't see him getting traded unless the perfect deal comes across Waddells plate.



Full clip

 

[cbjthrowaway]

Daily Faceoff's Frank Seravalli Hands Down Damning Indictment of the Blue Jackets Front Office Amid David Jiricek Controversy

Daily Faceoff NHL insider Frank Seravalli handed down a damning indictment of Columbus Blue Jackets general manager Jarmo Kekalainen and the team's front office.

www.1stohiobattery.com

you said Day 1, and then linked to an article from (by my math) Day 572.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

Why is he unhappy playing in the AHL he is 20 years old lol

 

[cbjthrowaway]

Why is he unhappy playing in the AHL he is 20 years old lol

by all accounts he took the demotion well and without issue. if he's unhappy about it, he hasn't said, but the 90% pay-cut would make me mad too.

 

[belair]

Hoglander will never be a top sixer. His value is not that of a top tier prospect in return.

That extension might be what negates any sort of future value if he can't pick up his production.

 

[StreetHawk]

by all accounts he took the demotion well and without issue. if he's unhappy about it, he hasn't said, but the 90% pay-cut would make me mad too.

Have to think big picture. Taking a 90% cut now may be what helps you get a multi year big contract later. Likely not in the next contract as he hasn’t shown much on his elc in the nhl.

Get your game up to a point where you warrant a big contract. Would them make the $800k difference look minimal down the road.

At this rate, he’s really in line to just get his QO only when his elc is up.

 

[Patty Ice]

Columbus is looking for a player who hasn't popped yet(I guess a player who has potential to be more than what they are/hasn't shown what they are)

Sounds like Mukhamadullin to me .

He was expected to win a job out of training camp but an injury set that back and he has been solid since the Sharks have been easing him back in this season. Along with a second or a young forward equivalent (Bordeleau/Gushchin) I think that would be an enticing offer.

 

[Stephen]

you said Day 1, and then linked to an article from (by my math) Day 572.

Oh ok, looks like he liked the organization at the start but changed his mind after being in it for a while.

 

[Maitz]

Mailloux and Jiricek swap??

 

[PocketNines]

last year jarmo told him to get a place out of camp, then vincent refused to give him any ice time and eventually he got sent back down, which caused a whole kerfuffle.

this year he got a top-four opportunity right in camp, but evason didn't like what he saw. evason leans HARD on his top two pairs, and now that we can roll out werenski-fabbro and provorov-severson, both of those pairs are playing 24+ minutes a night.

the best place for him in this org right now is the AHL, as you said. i do think he would benefit from a team giving him like 16-18 minutes a night + power play time in the NHL, though. that's just not something evason was willing to do.


[points to "korchinski and nemec from the same draft are in the AHL too" sign]

don't make me tap the sign

it sounds like you think I am the one who says he's available. I am merely noticing that your team has made him available?

 

[cbjthrowaway]

it sounds like you think I am the one who says he's available. I am merely noticing that your team has made him available?

you characterized him as an asset that is "shooting down in value like a bullet" which is untrue.

his value hasn't changed, his availability has. he's available now. but as an asset the most direct comparables are nemec and korchinski (same age, draft pedigree, development stage).

development isn't linear, especially on defense. he still has elite tools and things to work on. the upside is still there.

 

[CBJx614]

it sounds like you think I am the one who says he's available. I am merely noticing that your team has made him available?

It's not necessarily Waddell saying we're looking to trade him, it's more everyone on the roster is available for the right price. By all accounts Waddell isn't shopping him around the league.

 

[PocketNines]

you characterized him as an asset that is "shooting down in value like a bullet" which is untrue.

his value hasn't changed, his availability has. he's available now. but as an asset the most direct comparables are nemec and korchinski (same age, draft pedigree, development stage).

development isn't linear, especially on defense. he still has elite tools and things to work on. the upside is still there.

look I don't have a lot of strong feelings about this player. he's only more on my radar because he has a younger brother we're already worried about. the threads started out saying what's his value? now they say he's available.

you and I both know that #6 overall 1D picks don't really become available 18 months after getting picked unless there is serious concern somewhere

 

[Viqsi]

Everyone else has been reporting Jiricek is on the trade block.

They have been speculating, not reporting. There is a very important difference.

 

[3074326]

Funny he keeps being asked for in trades, and has been for years but nobody wants him.........

Explains why he's still in Vancouver, no?

 

[CanadasTeam99]

Hoglander will never be a top sixer. His value is not that of a top tier prospect in return.

They signed that deal when he was blowing his wad and shooting more than 2X his career lol. Like I said in the Hoglander signed thread. They are almost trying to give him away now.

 

[cbjthrowaway]

you and I both know that #6 overall 1D picks don't really become available 18 months after getting picked unless there is serious concern somewhere

in theory, sure. in reality, i don't think it's that complicated. the old regime picked him. the old regime also ruined the relationship. the new one gave him a chance to grab a top four spot in camp and he didn't.

it's not an indictment on the player that he still has to round out his game in the AHL as a 20-year-old defenseman. his peers (korchinski + nemec) are in the exact same spot.

at the end of the day, though, jiricek is only available because:

1. the player isn't ready and the agent is a problem
2. he's a rare asset with desirable traits (big RHD with tons of skill)

a couple weeks ago the obvious course of action was to wait it out and solve the problem listed in point #1 with patience. the fabbro acquisition (he's been dynamite) changes things. now they can leverage the value in point #2 to solve the problem in point #1 and not hurt themselves at RD.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Pretty sure this isn't Columbus saying that want to rid themselves of Jiricek, it's the BJs looking to see what they could get as he's unhappy there.

If the Jackets don't get their ask, or close they'll just keep him and see how things work out next season.

Waddell wanted a team to take on Laine's full contract and not take anything back and he paid a little (2nd) and got that want as he waited for it

 

[Viqsi]

in theory, sure. in reality, i don't think it's that complicated. the old regime picked him. the old regime also ruined the relationship. the new one gave him a chance to grab a top four spot in camp and he didn't.

it's not an indictment on the player that he still has to round out his game in the AHL as a 20-year-old defenseman. his peers (korchinski + nemec) are in the exact same spot.

at the end of the day, though, jiricek is only available because:

1. the player isn't ready and the agent is a problem
2. he's a rare asset with desirable traits (big RHD with tons of skill)

a couple weeks ago the obvious course of action was to wait it out and solve the problem listed in point #1 with patience. the fabbro acquisition (he's been dynamite) changes things. now they can leverage the value in point #2 to solve the problem in point #1 and not hurt themselves at RD.

...and, more to the point, if folks decide not to give us the value in point #2 because "omg lol distressed asset", the pre-Fabbro course of action is still a viable and desirable option.

 

[StreetHawk]

Pretty sure this isn't Columbus saying that want to rid themselves of Jiricek, it's the BJs looking to see what they could get as he's unhappy there.

If the Jackets don't get their ask, or close they'll just keep him and see how things work out next season.

Waddell wanted a team to take on Laine's full contract and not take anything back and he paid a little (2nd) and got that want as he waited for it

A team with cap room that feels it is better to give up a 2nd round pick vs retain on a contract, was odd. If cash is that tight.

 

[krutovsdonut]

you characterized him as an asset that is "shooting down in value like a bullet" which is untrue.

his value hasn't changed, his availability has. he's available now. but as an asset the most direct comparables are nemec and korchinski (same age, draft pedigree, development stage).

development isn't linear, especially on defense. he still has elite tools and things to work on. the upside is still there.

i doubt very much his value is unchanged. he seems to have attracted a lot of negative waves and that gets peoples' attention and has consequences. it would depend on the full story of why the negativity is out there and i guess more particularly the version of the full story that is in the hands of other teams. but he is looking to be traded, which is a red flag, and we see a situation where nhl coaching staff have refused to play him regularly in the nhl after management promotes him and at the same time there are regular updates about how upset that makes him. the coaches are running a train wreck team with nothing to lose by putting him in the line up, and everything to gain by forging a good bond with a top prospect. one possibility is these coaches are f***ing with jiricek or just do not get him. another possibility is this athlete has some attitude and professionalism issues. hard to say from the outside what is up but i'd need a lot of convincing to believe his value is unchanged.

we can see most clearly in a draft that the value of a talented player drops like a stone where there are drama/attitude/personality issues.

it sure looks to me like jiricek is a post-draft faller. the drama around him reminds me of kravtsov.