Rumor: David Jiricek available

wetcoast

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As a Habs fan everyone is on the table for Jiricek but Demidov.

Reinbacher, 1 for 1?

Lowest of the two 2025 1st + Beck + Mailloux?
They might consider Reinbacher I guess.

By lowest do you mean top 10 protected because those other 2 parts don't have a ton of value.

Beck is probably the best piece in the deal and I think he makes a good #3 center at his peak, maybe a really poor #2.

Mailloux is going to be one of those "breakout candidates" every year in fantasy hockey pools but will have trouble maintaining a top 4 spot because of his rawness.
 

Michoulicious

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Why are you giving up on Reinbacher already ? He’s been injured lately so I’m not too fond of that as we have Lindstrom in a similar situation
Lindstrom's injury is a big problem, I agree... He was DND in the top 10 for me for that reason.

Reinbacher got the same injury and surgery that Jiricek had.

I was really high on Jiricek in his draft year, had him at #3. Big question was always his mobility/hockey sense because he had everything else: the size, the shot, the physicality...

Reinbacher has less offensive upside, never was a big fan of the pick but he his an awesome skater and a pretty sure bet for a #3-4 at worst. Upside of a RHD McDonagh.

I just prefer the big RHD with the big shot.
 

koyvoo

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Clearly the relationship has soured.

know HF generally discards highly touted prospects a couple of years into development unless they set the big league on fire, but NHL teams usually have more realistic timelines.
 

ReimanSum1908

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Why are you giving up on Reinbacher already ? He’s been injured lately so I’m not too fond of that as we have Lindstrom in a similar situation
Because Reinbacher's D+1 was abysmal, and his D+2 was lost entirely to injury, and all that when he was a massive reach in the first place. He's in a far worse place in terms of value relative to selection than Jiricek, and even if Columbus was interested in another defenseman, they would be the immediate and future losers in a one-for-one trade.
 

Draft

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Jiricek is literally playing in the AHL.

“Willingness to play in the AHL” is not a selling point for Columbus nor does it add value to the other player.

There is zero reason for Columbus to consider dealing Jiricek for Mailloux.

It’s tough to be in a position to potentially lose a top prospect. I’m not trying to provide a reason for CLB to trade Jiricek, that’s all been stated previously.

I think teams acquiring Jiricek could be concerned about whether they’d meet his expectations of playing a consistent role in the NHL and whether he’d be willing to work with the team if his development path was in the AHL. If Columbus were to acquire a player like Mailloux (or any other prospect more amenable to receiving direction from their organization), they aren’t facing the same issues.

So… trading a prospect that either doesn’t want to play for your organization or is unwilling to follow the development path laid out by the organization for a very similar prospect that doesn’t have those issues sounds like a decent option. Especially if your team is fond of big, puck moving RD that are PPG in the AHL.

I don’t think MTL does this, I just think it’s more likely than them trading an injured player or one of their few center prospects.
 

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Because Reinbacher's D+1 was abysmal, and his D+2 was lost entirely to injury, and all that when he was a massive reach in the first place. He's in a far worse place in terms of value relative to selection than Jiricek, and even if Columbus was interested in another defenseman, they would be the immediate and future losers in a one-for-one trade.
by comparison, jiricek's D+1 was incredible (straight to AHL, was rookie of the year there), his D+2 saw him yo-yo'd by a coach who had no business running an NHL bench and a GM who was on his way out, and now in his D+3 he got sent down because he wasn't going to get minutes behind severson and fabbro.
 
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SteelCityCannon

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Clearly the relationship has soured
If there was any souring of relationships it was with Jarmo. Evason has spoken highly of him.

It’s tough to be in a position to potentially lose a top prospect. I’m not trying to provide a reason for CLB to trade Jiricek, that’s all been stated previously.

I think teams acquiring Jiricek could be concerned about whether they’d meet his expectations of playing a consistent role in the NHL and whether he’d be willing to work with the team if his development path was in the AHL. If Columbus were to acquire a player like Mailloux (or any other prospect more amenable to receiving direction from their organization), they aren’t facing the same issues.

So… trading a prospect that either doesn’t want to play for your organization or is unwilling to follow the development path laid out by the organization for a very similar prospect that doesn’t have those issues sounds like a decent option. Especially if your team is fond of big, puck moving RD that are PPG in the AHL.

I don’t think MTL does this, I just think it’s more likely than them trading an injured player or one of their few center prospects.
If this winds up being the case, we have a precedent with this, the Rutger McGroarty trade. If we were to trade him it would like be a similar 1 for 1.
 
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