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But he's being fired. They don't want him giving the players advice. That is why he is being fired.
Confirmed with Link: Dave Cameron Fired (along with Tourigny, Wamsley) (starts at post 208)
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But he's being fired. They don't want him giving the players advice. That is why he is being fired.
edguy
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So if Cameron's dismissed, do you think his assistants are too? Personally im not sure what roles Smith and Tourigny played behind the bench maybe someone can help me out with that?
Super Cake
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edguy
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I wouldnt say the entire coaching staff. Think you need to keep Rick wamsley around as goalie coach
I'm okay with Schwartz, Pattyson and Wamsley(as long as Anderson is). The others need to go asap
edguy
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At this point I think a vetran coach AKA Julien/Hitchcock/Boudreau whoever it may be, is necassary to keep the big guys around (Karlsson mainly)
Donovan did some great work with ZSmith during his injury ,helped him improve his game .Both skating and shooting,think there should be a place somewhere in the Org for him ,Same for Phillips
stempniaksen
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Yeah, I don't know if we need to fire the entire staff, as guys like Donovan and Wamsley seem to have done a good job (Wamslety especially, I don't want to lose him).
I don't want either one of Smith or Tourigny back though. If Richardson wants to come in as one of the assistants and take care of the defence than both of the returning guys become redundant (I know Tourigny worked with the forwards here, but he was much more succesful running the D in Colorado).
Whoever we bring in will want to bring in assistant coaches with him, so we definitely need to open up some spots. We'll never get an experience coach if they can't bring in a couple of "their guys".
I don't want either one of Smith or Tourigny back though. If Richardson wants to come in as one of the assistants and take care of the defence than both of the returning guys become redundant (I know Tourigny worked with the forwards here, but he was much more succesful running the D in Colorado).
Whoever we bring in will want to bring in assistant coaches with him, so we definitely need to open up some spots. We'll never get an experience coach if they can't bring in a couple of "their guys".
HavlatMach9
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When we brought in MacLean, was it he who brought Cameron? I've always wondered.
stempniaksen
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Pretty sure the organization brought in Cameron and let MacLean bring in Reeds. I could be wrong on that, as I'm going mostly from memory.
The Senators are one of the few teams left in the league who like to bring in one of their own assistants, and with Cameron's relationship with Melnyk I really wouldn't be surprised if he was that guy.
Rumours were always that DC was Eug's guy and Murray wanted MacLean. Eug relented but the compromise was hiring Cameron. Rumour, not fact as far as I know.
Sorry, I was actually just thinking about head coach and the two assistants. Meaning that if DC goes, his two assistants go so that the new head coach has a fresh start.
Goalie coach, Schwartz etc I have no issues with. Keep those guys.
Samsquanch
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How exactly do you know how every assistant coach in the league was hired, and who had the ultimate say in the hiring?
The thing is that when a head coach gets fired, his assistants don't always get fired as well. Does this mean when the new coach is in place that he is forced to keep those assistants? Maybe the new guy gets to come in, meet with them and decide if he wants to keep them on board.
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I think we will find out soon. I think they've already decided his fate and if that's the case then why let it drag out? If they haven't made a final decision then it could take a couple of weeks, but I think the decision has been made.
Super Cake
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Probably this.
When and if Julien gets fired, i wouldn't be surprised if Cameron gets fired some time after or at the most a day after Julien gets fired.
stempniaksen
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There was an article or a tweet or something in the last few weeks that stated the Senators are one of the few remaining teams in the league that don't let their head coach make all the hiring decisions for his staff (per some team policy).
I want to say it was either Mendes or McGuire. I'll do some digging when I get a chance, because I thought it was a really interesting point. I'm not sure how much that hampers the chance of bringng in one of the big name guys, and it could very well be different under Dorion.
Samsquanch
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I bet a lot is going to change under Dorion in that regard.
I think Murray was a coach at heart, and even as the GM liked to have a hand in the coaching. That was a problem at the end of the day. I also think he scoffed at the idea of paying big dollars for a marquee coach, and instead was always on the lookout for the next Babcock.
I think that Dorion is smart enough to know that #1 he is not a coach, and will stay out of all things coaching. And #2, in order to get every dollar of worth out of every player on his budget strapped team, he is going to have pay for a good, proven coach. As a rookie GM, he needs one imo.
Nothing will send a louder message to the fans and everyone else that Senators want to be competitive than opening up the wallet for a big name coach, like Mr Julien
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