Confirmed with Link: Dave Cameron Fired (along with Tourigny, Wamsley) (starts at post 208)

[2CHAINZ]

Melynk spent so much money on coaches to not coach over the years an yall are mad this guy doesn't spend ? Now that's the definition of a baller as far as I'm concerned.

 

[MarkStone]

This just in Ottawa senators fans are mad that the owner wouldn't spend 5 million on a coach. I mean what kind of business man doesn't spend 100x more than the rest of the league minus 1 team on a coach ?

When did this discussion get manipulated to the point where some people think that every single poster unhappy with Melnyk's interview wants him to back the brinks truck up and give a coach Babcock money. I don't realistically expect Julien or another qualified coach to demand Babcock money and I never expected us to give a new coach Babcock money. I just want us to put that extra effort in to secure a coach that can give us a bright future. I think many other posters are of the same opinion and Melnyk's contrasting answers have put a seed of doubt in many people's mind.

 

[Tragedy]

The question posed to Melnyk wasn't Would you pay 5M ....it was 3.5M TO 4.5M for a coach...and then HE said we would have to detract a 5M player to get that type of coach

I get what you're saying but no coaches are making 3.5 other than Babcock. Claude himself is only making 2.5 right now and he signed that contract after already winning the cup. 2 Years of missing the playoffs and being fired there after isn't a recipe for a 2M raise

 

[umma gumma]

Wow, people *****ing and whining about something that may or may not happen. How about we wait, oh I dunno, a little more than a few hours before jumping off the cliff?

This place!

 

[2CHAINZ]

When did this discussion get manipulated to the point where some people think that every single poster unhappy with Melnyk's interview wants him to back the brinks truck up and give a coach Babcock money. I don't realistically expect Julien or another qualified coach to demand Babcock money and I never expected us to give a new coach Babcock money. I just want us to put that extra effort in to secure a coach that can give us a bright future. I think many other posters are of the same opinion and Melnyk's contrasting answers have put a seed of doubt in many people's mind.

This just in A lot, but not all Ottawa Senators fans are mad Melynk won't spend 5 million on a coach.

 

[HavlatMach9]

Todd McLellan is a good guide I think. About 3 million for 3-4+ years for that caliber of coach.

 

[MarkStone]

This just in A lot, but not all Ottawa Senators fans are mad Melynk won't spend 5 million on a coach.

The issue isn't 5 million, the issue is how committed Melnyk is to securing an elite coach. The 5 million is a red herring.

 

[Sun God Nika]

Julien is gonna likely ask for 3M though
http://www.otherleague.com/contracts/nhl-head-coach-contracts-salaries/

previous contract was 2.5M, and thats if there isn't a bidding war.

 

[2CHAINZ]

Julien is gonna likely ask for 3M though
http://www.otherleague.com/contracts/nhl-head-coach-contracts-salaries/

previous contract was 2.5M, and thats if there isn't a bidding war.

WOW It's over guys I guess it's gonna be Luke.

But seriously remember when everyone was worried a team was going to snatch up Luke ?

 

[Qward]

So we trade Lehner because he and R.W. didn't get along only to end up firing R.W.

Someone should make a list of players and coaches B.M. Extended/signed only to buy out/fire.

For a budget team, Ottawa enjoys paying for people to not work for them.

 

[BK201]

WOW It's over guys I guess it's gonna be Luke.

But seriously remember when everyone was worried a team was going to snatch up Luke ?

I know right, and what ever happened to Kleinendorst?

So we trade Lehner because he and R.W. didn't get along only to end up firing R.W.

Someone should make a list of players and coaches B.M. Extended/signed only to buy out/fire.

For a budget team, Ottawa enjoys paying for people to not work for them.

Your forgetting we traded Bishop to keep Lehner

 

[ChocolateLeclaire]

So we trade Lehner because he and R.W. didn't get along only to end up firing R.W.

Someone should make a list of players and coaches B.M. Extended/signed only to buy out/fire.

For a budget team, Ottawa enjoys paying for people to not work for them.

There were a LOT more people that didn't get along with Lehner than Wamsley. He was just the one that Murray could mention.

 

[2CHAINZ]

I want Ted Nolan as long as he's cheap.

 

[Royal Canuck]

Just as an outsider, isn't it nearly impossible for things to change in Ottawa if Melnyk isn't willing to stop pinching pennies on the payroll?

It just seems like the root of this problem is the only piece that is sticking around.

 

[Boud]

The question posed to Melnyk wasn't Would you pay 5M ....it was 3.5M TO 4.5M for a coach...and then HE said we would have to detract a 5M player to get that type of coach

It was 4.5-5M .... Not 3.5 to 4.5

Listen again.

 

[Boud]

Honestly I've just listened to the Melnyk interview with TSN 1200 and people are going ape **** for absolutely nothing.

 

[The Lewler]

Isn't Babcock making 7 mill?

What does Quenville make? If he doesn't make 7 mil now, he's going to on his next deal.

A guy like Julien would have to be at least $4 mil, wouldn't he?

 

[FolignoQuantumLeap]

Just as an outsider, isn't it nearly impossible for things to change in Ottawa if Melnyk isn't willing to stop pinching pennies on the payroll?

It just seems like the root of this problem is the only piece that is sticking around.

It's certainly A problem but it's not THE problem. Far bigger issues was how we spent money (nearly 10M on guys who couldn't even hack in the league, Greening, Cowen and Wiercioch) and our league worst coaching staff. It can't really be emphasized enough how bad the special teams were. We spent middle of the pack, not like we were the cheapest roster in the league or anything.

 

[MarkStone]

Just as an outsider, isn't it nearly impossible for things to change in Ottawa if Melnyk isn't willing to stop pinching pennies on the payroll?

It just seems like the root of this problem is the only piece that is sticking around.

Ultimately....probably, yes. Not impossible, just a huge obstacle.

 

[Royal Canuck]

It's certainly A problem but it's not THE problem. Far bigger issues was how we spent money (nearly 10M on guys who couldn't even hack in the league, Greening, Cowen and Wiercioch) and our league worst coaching staff. It can't really be emphasized enough how bad the special teams were. We spent middle of the pack, not like we were the cheapest roster in the league or anything.

Ultimately....probably, yes. Not impossible, just a huge obstacle.

Huh, okay I see.

If the team loses Hoffman in the offseason I guess it becomes much more of an issue.

 

[FolignoQuantumLeap]

Isn't Babcock making 7 mill?

What does Quenville make? If he doesn't make 7 mil now, he's going to on his next deal.

A guy like Julien would have to be at least $4 mil, wouldn't he?

He signed an 8 year 50M contract last summer IIRC. It's not just the dollars, it's the term that is completely bonkers.

 

[Liliaceae]

Honestly I've just listened to the Melnyk interview with TSN 1200 and people are going ape **** for absolutely nothing.

Same, I expected to feel rage after listening based off of tweets/posts.

 

[Sensinitis]

Honestly I've just listened to the Melnyk interview with TSN 1200 and people are going ape **** for absolutely nothing.

SERIOUSLY.

Other than the out of context quotes that social media and posters are spouting out, Melny said that he's "willing to pony up" for a "long-term" coach.

So... Calm your boobies.

 

[mat_sens]

My beef with Melnyk is not the coach comments, but rather that anyone, including Karlsson, can be traded.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

My beef with Melnyk is not the coach comments, but rather that anyone, including Karlsson, can be traded.

That's one of the more sensible things I've ever heard him say to be honest.